Good morning, Great chat last night. Had a record number of participants I think and some of the regulars still were not there! Here is the text of my comments on condition for the forthcoming replacemeent book. I would very much like to have your comments via email or at chat. Fax would be ok as would voice call if you like. Typo corrections etc are fine, but more interested in serious concept comments. Thanks, see you tonight. Fred Condition That condition is important to collectors is so well understood that it does not require mentioning. Why it is important and its particular application to MPC replacements are not nearly as well understood. We are not concerned here with the technical aspects of grading. What does it take for a note to graded as extremely fine and the like. Instead we are interested in the philosophies of why is grade important and what effect does that have on collecting replacements. First let me say that by grade we are talking about evaluating the "state of preservation" of a given note. It is quite easy to understand why beautiful original notes are more desirable than worn, dirty notes. The same concept applies to art, automobiles, and just about any other commodity. If it is dirty or damaged, or both, it is less attractive, interesting, and therefore desirable. For a given note it is assumed that the number of available examples gets smaller the higher one looks on the condition continuum. This concept adds elitism to the reasons that an uncirculated note is more desirable than a worn note. This last concept of rarity increasing while moving up the condition continuum is based upon the idea that examples survived at random. With this assumption it is easy to fit the concept of normal distribution to available grade distribution and it is basically correct. The well known exceptions in numismatics in general and military payment certificates in particular are exceptions because the survival was not random. Basically we are talking about hoards. The notable exceptions are when a group of high grade (usually uncirculated) examples survived. In coins the 1950 Denver five cent piece is far more common than its very fine counterpart. Among regular issue military payment certificates, Series 472 5 cent and Series 661 $5 certificates are examples where far higher than normal proportions of uncirculated notes remain. Among replacements a disproportionate number of uncirculated Series 611 5 and 10 cent notes were saved. These are all cases of hoards. A statistician might argue with me and say that the survival of a hoard of uncirculated notes was a random activity. This theory goes that among the countless possibilities, survival of groups of uncirculated examples was simply one of the possibilities and was bound to occur. Furthermore, the survival of disproportionate numbers of uncirculated notes had a much greater likelihood than the survival of a group of good or poor notes. This is because huge numbers of hoards of uncirculated notes existed (each pack of 100 notes was a hoard waiting to happen) whereas corresponding hoards of heavily-circulated notes seldom existed. A soldier who wanted to keep a group of 100 notes could have easily obtained a pack of new notes, but would have had difficulty obtaining 100 notes uniformly in any other condition! The one exception to this was at the time of conversion. At that time hoards of notes disproportionately in circulated conditions were created and some of them survived. Some of these circulated hoards survived just as their uncirculated counterparts, but there is one additional fascinating aspect to circulated hoards. By their very nature, the serial numbers will be mixed whereas hoards of uncirculated notes which will have grouped if not consecutive serial numbers. This allows the easy tracking of uncirculated hoards thus calling attention to them. Finally, hoards of circulated notes simply reinforce our predisposition that uncirculated notes are more scarce than worn notes so little attention is called to the circulated hoard. This may sound as though I am trying to make the case that when a hoard of uncirculated notes exists, the lower grades are more rare, hence more desirable, and worth more money! This is not the true because the other factors of desirability will outweigh the scarcity. However, there is a little truth to this idea. Some collectors include the much scarcer worn Series 611 5 and 10 cent replacements in their collections along with the uncirculated hoard notes! When the survey of replacements began, we gathered information on condition, but it was not central to the study. It was almost an afterthought. Eventually in the days before micro computers as the amount of data grew, we even lost some of the condition and other data that had been collected and simultaneously stopped gathering condition data. Even after micro computers [mostly] solved the space and bookkeeping problems, some data was corrupted and lost with computer crashes and the like. This lack of data hinders some of our research but it also adds a beautiful element of uncertainty and intrigue to help keep us interested! In the third edition of Military Payment Certificates, we included the condition of the reported replacements in the appendix listing of all replacements. Furthermore, we summarized in tabular format the number of uncirculated examples reported. The availability of these data is just now beginning to effect the market for replacements. Here we have greatly expanded the study of condition. In addition to inclusion of the reported grade for each replacement, we have summarized the distribution of grades in tabular and graphical format. It is not surprising that there are some condition rarities among issues which are otherwise more or less common as replacements. But, frankly, even I was surprised at the number of the issues that are extremely rare in uncirculated condition. There are some factors that must be kept in mind when evaluating the relative rarity of replacements by condition. First, this is a new aspect of the study so conclusions must be tentative. Next, for most of the issues, there is a substantial number of notes with no reported condition. Grading is an art or at least a skill and as such different people do it differently. For that matter the same person will do it differently at different times. Most of the recorded grades were reported by the owners of the notes, but some were evaluated by impartial observers and many were made by me. Here is a real interesting twist. Initially I limited the recording of grades to only two characters. F- was an acceptable but VG+ was not. Even though I have lifted this restriction, I still limit the grade to three characters. ===== --------------------------------- please respond to this address or to fred@papermoneyworld.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com