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MPC Gram
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Series 001 Number 74 July 27, 2000
News and Views
Happy birthday Wiz, I missed it by a few days, but I finally remembered. Have a great one!
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Some new names were discussed for the gram on chat Thur night. Brad P. suggested The Bullet and Incoming. MPC Kid suggested Mail Call but thought that the suffix gram was good even if a different root is adopted.
Additional discussions centered around how many military money collectors there are and what is the difference between a collector and a numismatist. Dave S. is working on an article to address the matter of how many fellow collectors we have. It will appear here soon.
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The Thursday USA Today had an article about Swiss payments to be made to Holocaust victims. According to the article, Swiss banks are going to pay $1.25 billion dollars compensation to holocaust survivors in addition to the $4.8 billion being paid by the German government.
In my opinion, documents relating to claims and payments are WWII numismatic items. Perhaps the best would be an actual check (from the banks or the government). Of course, the checks are likely to be so large than no one would want to keep one, but perhaps someday the cancelled checks will find their way back into collectors' hands. Of course, a photograph of one of the checks would also be good.
I was particularly pleased to add the section on neutral nations to World War II Remembered. This was a concept that had not been explored in the past. Of course the classic neutral nation is Switzerland and there were a few important items to list for Switzerland. Now we have another. It relates to the compensation issue above.
Throughout the war, various Swiss banks held assets for people from many nations. At the end of the war, when assets could be distributed, there was concern that that banks not aid war criminals and the like so some controls were instituted. These controls are little known nor understood. Few numismatic artifacts have been found relating to this situation, but there is at least one.
Some stock certificates have been found that were held by Swiss banks throughout the war. The backs of the certificates are stamped indicating that dividends were paid throughout the war. That is interesting, but hardly significant.
The interesting part is the certificate attached to the stock certificate. The text is as follows:
Swiss compensation office
Zurich
[serial number]
CERTIFICATE
The Swiss Compensation Office, acting upon instructions of the Swiss Government certifies that no national of Germany or Japan as defined in paragraph 6 of the letter of November 22, 1946, from the Secretary of the Treasury to Federal Councillor Detitpierre, has or has had an interest in the following securities since the respective dates on which the Swiss freezing regulations were extended to Germany and Japan.
[identification of the security]
[date stamp and signature, illegible (unfortunately)]
I think that these certificates are important and interesting items. Of course they raise lots of questions that we never even thought of before! Wow, what a great hobby we have! Of course these certificates will be listed in the next WWII Remembered.
Your thoughts on the above are certainly welcome.
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Wiz is working on a new chat program. We will announce "conversion" to the "new new chat" here at least several times before it takes place.
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Be sure to see the trading post for some very special offers from David Seelye (coinman).
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Letters
Hey Fred,
If we didn't have to come back from paradise sometime, we'd never know
there was something to look forward to.
The MPC Gram name sounds just fine. It is readily identifiable and
nice & short.
Question/comment. there any reverse order collecting going on - like
76543210? Now, I realize that some of the numbers are too high for feasibility.
But there could be something like 000987654, etc.? I have never thought about the weird possibilities -- I've been too busy trying to find the ones in the
short & long set that I don't have. Now, since you mentioned it, I have started
looking at the scrip that I see in a different manner. Thanks for complicating my life -it is a good complication.
Hope your return from paradise isn't too traumatic.
rusty
Dear Rusty,
Paradise is a junk box, a long forgotten envelope of notes, a new variety, or a new serial number for the replacement survey!
Yes, there certainly is interest in "reverse" numbers. I should have mentioned this in the ladder discussion, but as you say, there are no real reverse MPC ladders but even 00654321 would be a nice find.
One of my own favorites in this area is the idea of finding the very LAST number for a note, the inverse of serial number one. This is MUCH harder to find. There was little motivation at the time of issue to save this note (compared to the number 1) and it is not recognizable to collectors without a book.
Phil Goldstein has started a survey to find the highest reported SN for each issue of MPC. I think that this is important research, first because it might help us find some discrepancies or give us some insight to number of notes ISSUED as opposed to printed. The other thing is that it may help us find a last note.
Editor
How about Mil-Gram? Covers all military, MPC and everything in between. Or Mil-Mail? Nah! I like Mil-Gram better but you will most likely come up with
something better.
Neil S.
Dear Mr. S.,
Perhaps mil E gram, or mil-graEm? More thoughts and ideas are still needed. Thanks for writing.
Editor
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Calendar
In this section we will highlight MPC chat, MPC Fest, and MPC gram events. Other events will be mentioned as they get close. For planning purposes see the papermoneyworld.com calendar of events.
The next major show is the American Numismatic Association Convention (August 9-13). This year the convention will be in Philadelphia. 25 years ago the ANA convention was one of the major events for paper money. Now with the development of so many successful paper money shows (and of course the MPC Fest), its importance has diminished, but it is still an important show. Because it is such a big and important show, you cannot help but find some good paper there. Marv Mericle's great MPC collection will NOT be on display as promissed because of family and administration problems. We are certainly sorry to hear about that, but hope that all goes well with Marv and that we will see the exhibit again soon.
I will be there the entire time and will be pleased to chat MPC with you!
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Trading post
Your classified advertisement for items for sale will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram.
United States war bonds are little appreicated and not well understood. Please see the information on pages 391 and 392 in WWII Remembered. I am pleased to offer a large size $25 bond (#226). This is an uncancelled bond which means that the redemption value is about $125 but it is not redeemable except to a rightfull heir. But, heck, we do not want to redeem, we want to collect. This is real nice piece issued to a fellow in Michigan. It was folded in the center but is otherwise real nice. This is the much more desirable large-size bond; your for $100 delivered. fred@papermoneyworld.com. Thanks
David Seelye can offer the following items for free on a first come, first served basis:11 6 month subscription coupons for world coin news available and two 6 Month subscriptions to BNR. Contact Dave at coinman@rochester.rr.com
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MPC Gram
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Series 001 Number 74 July 27, 2000
News and Views
Happy birthday Wiz, I missed it by a few days, but I finally remembered. Have a great one!
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Some new names were discussed for the gram on chat Thur night. Brad P. suggested The Bullet and Incoming. MPC Kid suggested Mail Call but thought that the suffix gram was good even if a different root is adopted.
Additional discussions centered around how many military money collectors there are and what is the difference between a collector and a numismatist. Dave S. is working on an article to address the matter of how many fellow collectors we have. It will appear here soon.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
The Thursday USA Today had an article about Swiss payments to be made to Holocaust victims. According to the article, Swiss banks are going to pay $1.25 billion dollars compensation to holocaust survivors in addition to the $4.8 billion being paid by the German government.
In my opinion, documents relating to claims and payments are WWII numismatic items. Perhaps the best would be an actual check (from the banks or the government). Of course, the checks are likely to be so large than no one would want to keep one, but perhaps someday the cancelled checks will find their way back into collectors' hands. Of course, a photograph of one of the checks would also be good.
I was particularly pleased to add the section on neutral nations to World War II Remembered. This was a concept that had not been explored in the past. Of course the classic neutral nation is Switzerland and there were a few important items to list for Switzerland. Now we have another. It relates to the compensation issue above.
Throughout the war, various Swiss banks held assets for people from many nations. At the end of the war, when assets could be distributed, there was concern that that banks not aid war criminals and the like so some controls were instituted. These controls are little known nor understood. Few numismatic artifacts have been found relating to this situation, but there is at least one.
Some stock certificates have been found that were held by Swiss banks throughout the war. The backs of the certificates are stamped indicating that dividends were paid throughout the war. That is interesting, but hardly significant.
The interesting part is the certificate attached to the stock certificate. The text is as follows:
Swiss compensation office
Zurich
[serial number]
CERTIFICATE
The Swiss Compensation Office, acting upon instructions of the Swiss Government certifies that no national of Germany or Japan as defined in paragraph 6 of the letter of November 22, 1946, from the Secretary of the Treasury to Federal Councillor Detitpierre, has or has had an interest in the following securities since the respective dates on which the Swiss freezing regulations were extended to Germany and Japan.
[identification of the security]
[date stamp and signature, illegible (unfortunately)]
I think that these certificates are important and interesting items. Of course they raise lots of questions that we never even thought of before! Wow, what a great hobby we have! Of course these certificates will be listed in the next WWII Remembered.
Your thoughts on the above are certainly welcome.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Wiz is working on a new chat program. We will announce "conversion" to the "new new chat" here at least several times before it takes place.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Be sure to see the trading post for some very special offers from David Seelye (coinman).
========================================================
Letters
Hey Fred,
If we didn't have to come back from paradise sometime, we'd never know
there was something to look forward to.
The MPC Gram name sounds just fine. It is readily identifiable and
nice & short.
Question/comment. there any reverse order collecting going on - like
76543210? Now, I realize that some of the numbers are too high for feasibility.
But there could be something like 000987654, etc.? I have never thought about the weird possibilities -- I've been too busy trying to find the ones in the
short & long set that I don't have. Now, since you mentioned it, I have started
looking at the scrip that I see in a different manner. Thanks for complicating my life -it is a good complication.
Hope your return from paradise isn't too traumatic.
rusty
Dear Rusty,
Paradise is a junk box, a long forgotten envelope of notes, a new variety, or a new serial number for the replacement survey!
Yes, there certainly is interest in "reverse" numbers. I should have mentioned this in the ladder discussion, but as you say, there are no real reverse MPC ladders but even 00654321 would be a nice find.
One of my own favorites in this area is the idea of finding the very LAST number for a note, the inverse of serial number one. This is MUCH harder to find. There was little motivation at the time of issue to save this note (compared to the number 1) and it is not recognizable to collectors without a book.
Phil Goldstein has started a survey to find the highest reported SN for each issue of MPC. I think that this is important research, first because it might help us find some discrepancies or give us some insight to number of notes ISSUED as opposed to printed. The other thing is that it may help us find a last note.
Editor
How about Mil-Gram? Covers all military, MPC and everything in between. Or Mil-Mail? Nah! I like Mil-Gram better but you will most likely come up with
something better.
Neil S.
Dear Mr. S.,
Perhaps mil E gram, or mil-graEm? More thoughts and ideas are still needed. Thanks for writing.
Editor
========================================================
Calendar
In this section we will highlight MPC chat, MPC Fest, and MPC gram events. Other events will be mentioned as they get close. For planning purposes see the papermoneyworld.com calendar of events.
The next major show is the American Numismatic Association Convention (August 9-13). This year the convention will be in Philadelphia. 25 years ago the ANA convention was one of the major events for paper money. Now with the development of so many successful paper money shows (and of course the MPC Fest), its importance has diminished, but it is still an important show. Because it is such a big and important show, you cannot help but find some good paper there. Marv Mericle's great MPC collection will NOT be on display as promissed because of family and administration problems. We are certainly sorry to hear about that, but hope that all goes well with Marv and that we will see the exhibit again soon.
I will be there the entire time and will be pleased to chat MPC with you!
====================================================
Trading post
Your classified advertisement for items for sale will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram.
United States war bonds are little appreicated and not well understood. Please see the information on pages 391 and 392 in WWII Remembered. I am pleased to offer a large size $25 bond (#226). This is an uncancelled bond which means that the redemption value is about $125 but it is not redeemable except to a rightfull heir. But, heck, we do not want to redeem, we want to collect. This is real nice piece issued to a fellow in Michigan. It was folded in the center but is otherwise real nice. This is the much more desirable large-size bond; your for $100 delivered. fred@papermoneyworld.com. Thanks
David Seelye can offer the following items for free on a first come, first served basis:11 6 month subscription coupons for world coin news available and two 6 Month subscriptions to BNR. Contact Dave at coinman@rochester.rr.com
Do You Yahoo!?
Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
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