From: MPCgram [mpcgram@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:52 AM To: Doug Bell Subject: Fwd: MPCGram 1401 --- MPCgram wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 17:43:46 -0800 (PST) > From: MPCgram > Subject: MPCGram 1401 > To: mpcgram@papermoneyworld.net > > ------------------------ > / MPC Gram News Letter / > ----------------------- > > =========================================== > MPC GRAM > =========================================== > Vol 7, no 1401 > > Wenesday December 28, 2005 > > More on Navy Pay > > by David Klinger > > The information I provided in Gram 1395 related to US Navy > paymasters and their enlisted assistants was correct, but does not > tell the whole story. Fred also asked me about Navy Pay Clerks, and > their insignia. > It > was logical to assume that there were no such animals, since the > paymaster role was first filled by Pursers, then Paymasters then > Supply Officers up to present. > And, their enlisted assistants were called Paymaster's Stewards, > Paymaster's Writers, Paymaster's Yeoman, Storekeeper (D), and then > Disbursing Clerks (DK). > So, > since I had made a full account of all the titles (officer and > enlisted) and the full time-line, there simply could not have been > such a thing as a Navy Pay Clerk during WWII, as had been suggested to > me. I concluded that, in the book which indicated the Navy Pay Clerk > title, it was a simple author's error (or a printers error, as authors > call them). > I was wrong. (Fred was right - again.) The explanation is related > to the way warrant officers were used in the US Navy over time. Over > the Navy's first century, numerous warrant officers were called up > from civilian life to fill specific needs. As I reported, the first > paymasters in the US Navy were warrant officers - called pursers. Up > until the start of WWI, the Navy warrant officer community declined, > and was almost lost. In 1914 only one warrant officer remained on > active duty- a chief sailmaker. Then in > 1915 warrant ranks were reestablished to meet the demands of the > rapidly developing technology of the time. Among those added to the > register were 84 chief pay clerks, 101 pay clerks and 52 acting pay > clerks. > > It was then that the Navy positioned these warrant officers in between > the Supply Corps Officers and their enlisted Dispursing Clerks. They > were referred to as Pay Clerks (as strange as that seems to me). > Their insignia was similar to the Supply Officer insignia (split oak > leafs- but, sans acorns). They were active through WWII. Most warrant > officers after this time had to be chief petty officers (E-7) before > they could apply for appointment to warrant officer. > > You can view the warrant officer (pay clerk) insignia here: > > http://www.angelfire.com/md2/patches/other2/ngrade3.html > *********************************************************** > Championship Question Corner > > Question: What Allied military 1000 unit notes were > printed by the intaglio method? Question 26, > difficulty 2? Bonus question: What was the insignia > of > WWII navy pay clerks (warrant officers)? Question > 27, > difficulty 1. > > Yesterday's Question(s). What two countries printed > AM > schillings? Question 24, difficulty 1. Bonus > question: > What denomination AM mark is known with a serial > number prefix letter? (extra bonus what letters are > reported?) Question 25, difficulty 2. > > The answer is: See comments below. > > Comments from the field and from the champ: Roger > Urce > wrote: England and the United States (BEP and > Forbes) > printed AM schillings. As for the bonus: the 100 > Marks is known with a letter prefix. I was only > able > to find the one letter prefix of "m"; was the use of > the plural "letters" intended as obfuscation or did > I > miss something? [Who me? Read on.--Ed] Bill Myers > correctly answered: Austria AMC were printed > schillings by the United States and England. They > are > identified by their watermark, Military Authority on > the US notes and wavy lines on the English. > Soviet 100 mark notes have a prefix letter on some > note instead of a - > or 1. Reported letters are m, o, p, t. > Jack Hunter (current champ comments): Seems that the > questions are being numbered just like the Grams! > Maybe they should carry a series number instead? > Two countries that printed AM schillings were the > USA > and Great Britain, distinguished by the watermarks > only. > AM marks (100) had 3, or is it 4 different letters? > m > is the only one I remember though... L might be in > there too. r ? s? > I remember them being discussed in class, but I > can't > find my notes... and it's not in the book, so they > don't count until the 2nd edition is finished ;-{ ) > ========================================== > Editorial > ========================================== > Did you see the MPC bowl game between Boise State > and > Boston College? I do not remember who won the game, > but the name of the bowl sure got my attention. I do > not know what the organizers think MPC stands for, > but > you KNOW what I think it means. Perhaps we should > have > a mini Fest there next year? Well, perhaps it would > not be a mini Fest with 30 or even 20,000 Festers. > Cool. > I forgot to tell you about one of the things that > Santa brought me (actually it was from Judy). It is > a > eight DVD set of World War II videos. Altogether > there > is something like 900 minutes of film! I love it, or > more correctly, I will love it. I am about to stick > one in the computer and see if I can get it to play > while I work on Grams, books and other things. From > the looks of the titles, I have seen many of the > videos, but I am happy to have even the ones that I > have seen. > =========================================== > Mail Call > =========================================== > Dear Gram, >     Joe Bowling - I like it - strikes me as a > turkey, > but I'll spare the gutter talk. (re: Gram 1400) >   > Anonymous > > Dear Gram, > It never mattered what or where the event was, > all > you had to do was look out across the show floor and > find Leo's signature hat. If you could find the hat > it was always accompanied by a good concentration of > friends and fellow collectors. He had the type of > personality that attracted good people. I consider > myself fortunate to have known him. God bless Leo > May. > > Marcus Turner > > Dear Editor: > I was saddened to hear of Leo's(May) passsing. I > was > one of the first of the paper money or military > people > to meet Leo having done so at the 1980 FIN(AINA) > show(A show that at one time preceded FUN and at the > time was bigger!) in 1980 in Miami Beach. He was > dealing primarily in U.S. coins at the time but had > some notes & I quickly determined he was a W.W. II > collector & we began to do business. We began > sharing > tables at FIN(until it's demise in the mid 80's) and > at FUn until the early 90's. We shared his time > share > with many others at FUN for many years & all still > remember his attention to the food detail & the > endless games of hearts. It was at one of these that > he had his first heart attack right in front of me > on > a Sunday morning. He survived a very close call and > went on to travel & do shows, after his retirement > from his day job, for many years & many miles > including a trip to Europe to include Maastrict & > the > shrine at Lourdes, a trip he had longed to make. I > will most remember Leo as a good friend who always > thought of and looked after his. May he rest in > peace. > > Ian Marshall > =========================================== > Calendar > =========================================== > 2006 > > Florida United Numismatists, Inc. 51st Annual Coin > Convention on January 5 - 8, 2006. Orange County > Convention / Civic Center, 9800 International Drive, > Orlando, FL. Hours Thursday, January 5 to Saturday, > January 7, 10:00 A.M. to 6:30 P.M. and Sunday, > January > 8, 10:00 A.M. to 3:00 P.M. This show is considered > one > of the finest in the country with an exceptional > bourse, > major auction by Heritage which includes CAA, great > exhibits, many coin club meetings > and daily (almost hourly) educational programs. > Exhibits are competitive but you must be a member of > FUN. FUN has six category's which the YN's are > included in. BIS includes a fully paid ANA Summer > Seminar scholarship. The prizes are also excellent > and every exhibitor gets a nice medal (silver). Many > MPC collectors attend this show and the bourse > usually > includes at least some MPC and similar material. > Mini > Fests have been known to crop up at FUN. Visit FUN > on > their web page for exhibit or show information > (www.funtopics.com). > > Feb 9-11, Long Beach, mini fest to be announced > > Mar 3-5 MPCFest VII John Cheney$$, Harold Kroll, C & > D > Freeland, Roger Urcie, Pat Bethe, Karen Jach, Jack > Hunter (champ), G. W. Slade#, Larry 'Ski' > Smulczenski, > Steve Swoish, Cuneyd Tolek, Loretta and Dick > Freyser, > Bob Olson, Wendell Wolka, JANE* and Warner Talso, > Howard Daniel$$#, George Fitzgerald, Bill Haines, > Bill > Meyers#, Nick S., Dave Hunsicker#, Gary Hicks, Adolf > Witzke, John Cheney$$, Mark Watson, Ron Waddel, > Rachel > Feller, Ed Beaman, Carlson Chambliss, Judy and Fred > Schwan Running totals: overall 33; new festers 4. $ > paid, $$ paid single, # new Fester, *special > services > auxiliary. Honor Roll: Mike Cummngs, Robert Kutcher, > Leo May. > > Mar 9-12 CPMX, Chicago > > 1-2 April 2006, "PaperMoneyFair-Maastricht", in the > "Polfermolen" in beautiful Valkenburg. Netherlands. > The most important and best attended paper money > bourse in Europe if not the world! For more > information, go to the show's web site at > http://www.papermoney-maastricht.org/ or contact the > show organizer, Jos Eijsermans, at > apnc.eijsermans@wxs.nl > > June 1-3 Long Beach, mini fest to be announced > > 3-5 March MPCFest VII > > 7-9 April ANA convention, Atlanta > > 16-18 June Memphis > > 1-14 July ANA summer seminar > > 16-20 August ANA convention, Denver > > September 14th-16th, Long Beach, mini fest to be > annuonced > > Oct/Nov Pcda St Louis > ========================================== > for dealer Hot Contact list, ANA MPC museum holdings > and other static information please click this link: > http://www.papermoneyworld.net/Gramattichments.htm > ========================================== > 2005 scholarship fund Donations of cash and > numismatic > material will be gladly accepted. Generally the > numismatic material is auctioned at MPCFest, but > might > be sold via ebay or other places. Your scholarship > donations help the hobby by sending qualified > individuals to the ANA summer seminar military money > class. Except for unavoidable charges like ebay > fees, > > 100% of your donation goes to scholarships. > > Contributors to the 2005 scholarship so far are: > Ed > Hoffman, Warner Talso, RA Medina, John & Nancy > Wilson, > Keith & Sue Bauman, Dan Freeland, Tom Koch, Doug > Bell, > Cuneyd Tolek, David Seelye, Brian Giese, Larry > Smulczenski, Joe Boling, Dick & Loretta Freyser, > Mark > Watson, John Cheney, Roger Urce, Harold Kroll, Al > Glaser. (also Memphis Belle note purchasers and > summer > seminar participants. irie Harris, Robert Connell, > William Benton > > Donors and dontions to the scholarship fund > (directly) > or to the bennefit auction: Ed Beaman, Frank Clark, > Howard A. Daniel III, Dick and Loretta Freyser, Dan > and Kathy Freeland, Jack Hunter, Harld Kroll, Tim > Kyzivat, Leo May, Robbie Robinson, Joel Shafer, Neil > Shafer, Larry Smulczenski, Steve Swoish, Roger Urce, > Ron Waddell, Pam West, John and Nancy Wilson, Adolf > Witzke, Wendell Wolka. > > Contact me at: "Marcus Turner" mail to: > maturner@indy.rr.com Checks should be made out to > the > "Military Numismatists Scholarship." or Marcus > Turner > > Marcus Turner > PO Box 191 > Danville, Indiana 46122 > USA > > IMPORTANT SCHOLARSHIP INFORMATION > > Additional information can be found at the link > below. > We encourage everyone to print copies of this > information and distribute it to those who might be > interested. Further you are encouraged to e-mail the > pdf document to anyone you see fit. Thank you > http://www.papermoneyworld.net/news/Military > Numismatists Scholarship Fund 2003.pdf Marcus Turner > > Scholarships from the ANA: See the following > location > for an application for financial aid to the summer > seminar: http://www.money.org/sumsemfin.html > ========================================= > POST / BASE EXCHANGE(PX/BX/NEX) > > Dump your dupes! Your classified advertisement for > items for sale, purchase or trade will be run here > for > free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for > everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced > collector. The point is to make the gram more > interesting. In all cases confirm your order via > email > first. > > Special book offer made in the Bank Note Reporter > and > now repeasted for Gramsters. The new 7th editon of > the > Comprehensive Catalog of U. S. Paper Money by Gene > Hessler and Carlson Chambliss will be released in > Jan > or Feb. If you order a copy now, we will promptly > send > you a copy of the 6th edition to tide you over till > the new one is ready. We will ship the new one and > you > keep them both. Hard to beat this deal. Price > softbound $32, hardbound $40. You can order just by > sending an email to BNRPress@papermoneyworld.net (or > even just reply to the Gram) and they will send you > the books with an invoice--a special benefit of > being > a Gram subscriber. > > Collection of UNESCO COUPONS > > ISSUED Notes no acceptance signature > > > 1 Cent Serial number 91555 Date of issue > 20-x-1956 > UNESCO New York Office > 5 Cents Serial Number 91548 Date of issue > 20-x-1956 > UNESCO New York Office > 10 Cent Serial number 91544 Date of issue > 20-x-1956 UNESCO New York Office > 25 Cents Serial Number 91540 Date of issue > 20-x-1956 > UNESCO New York Office > 50 Cents Serial Number 91538 Date of issue > 20-x-1956 > UNESCO New York Office > 1 dollar Serial number 150320 Date of issue > 20-x-1956 UNESCO New York Office > > ISSUED Notes with stamps and signatures ( these > were > actually used) > 3 Dollars Serial number 286293 date of issue > 30-IV-1960 signed in Rome Italy > 3 Dollars Serial number 286294 date of issue > 30-IV-1960 signed in Rome Italy > there is a receipt from 10-17-1963 from First > national Bank of Grand Junction CO debiting a Korean > Stamp Society for the $6.00. 1st Stamp on the notes > is dated October 1, 1963 > > 3 Dollars Serial Number 737191 Date of Issue > 1.10.1970 signed Juaso Ghana > > SPECIMEN UNESCO GIFT COUPON > 1Pound Serial No. B issuance date 1 September 1951 > > VIA 52.1 (UK) g a AF > 1Pound Serial No. B issuance date 1 September 1951 > > VIA 52.1 (UK) g a AF > 1 UNUM Serial No. E (No Date) VIA 52.1 (UN) > 1 > a AF. > 1.000 Francs Serial No. C Issuance date: 1 October > 1951 REH 51, M. 9. > > SPECIMEN UNESCO TRAVEL COUPON > 10 Dollars No. A ( No Date) VIA 53 IV 1 > 10 Dollars No. A ( No Date) VIA 53 IV 1 > 100 Dollars No. C (No Date) VIA 53 IV 3 > > UNESCO COUPON > SPECIMEN Booklet Date of issue 1.10.1979 missing > cover > $1.00, $3.00, $10.00, 30.00, $100.00, Cents not to > exceed 99 Cents [1.1.1980] > Imprimerie Courvoisier SA - Suisse > SPECIMEN Check Book Value in UNUM each check has a > serial number No Date > There is a stub with each check and two receipts on > each stub > 1 Unum Serial no: 0,104,099 > 2 Unum Serial no: 0,035,099 > 5 Unum Serial no: 0,112,099 > 20 Unum Serial no: 0,072,099 > 50 Unum Serial no: 0,036,099 > 100 Unum Serial no: 0,022,099 > > Cents not to exceed 99 cents Date of issue Jan. 1956 > > VIA.55.II. 1 f AF. > Cents not to exceed 99 cents Date of issue 1-6-59 > PLD.59.II 1 j AF. > Cents not to exceed 99 cents Date of issue 1-6-59 > PLD.59.II 1 j AF. > $1.00 Date of Issue Jan. 1956 VIA.55.II. 2 > d > AF. > $1.00 Date of Issue Jan. 1956 VIA.55.II. 2 > d > AF. > $1.00 Date of Issue 1-6-59 PLD.59.II. > 2 > k AF. > $1.00 Date of Issue 1-6-59 PLD.59.II. > 2 > k AF. > $3.00 Date of Issue Jan. 1956 VIA.55.II. 3 > e > AF. Torn in half > $3.00 Date of Issue Jan. 1956 VIA.55.II. 3 > e > AF. > $3.00 Date of Issue 1-6-59 PLD.59.II. > 3 > m AF. > $3.00 Date of Issue 1-6-59 PLD.59.II. > 3 > m AF. > $3.00 Date of Issue 1-6-59 PLD.59.II. > 3 > m AF. > $10.00 Date of issue 20-x-1956 PLD.56.II 4 f > AF. Torn in half > $10.00 Date of issue 1-6-59 PLD.59.II. > 4 > I AF. > $10.00 Date of issue 1-6-59 PLD.59.II. > 4 > I AF. > $30.00 Date of issue Jan. 57 PLD.57.II. > 5 > c AF. > $30.00 Date of issue Jan. 57 PLD.57.II. > 5 > c AF. > $30.00 Date of issue Jan. 57 PLD.57.II. > 5 > c AF. > $100.00 Date of issue Jan. 57 PLD.57.II. 7 > c > AF. > $100.00 Date of issue Jan. 57 PLD.57.II. 7 > c > AF. > $100.00 Date of issue 1-3-60 PLD.60.II. 7 > e > AF. > $1000.00 Date of issue Nov. 1954 VIA.54.II.14.AF > $1000.00 Date of issue Nov. 1954 VIA.54.II.14.AF > $1000.00 Date of issue Jan. 57 > VIA.57.II.14a.AF > > different notes > > 26 > 2 specimen sets with 6 different notes each 12 > > total > different notes 38 > total > notes 52 > > > net $15,000.00 > > David Seelye, contact coinman@rochester.rr.com > > WANTED SECTION: > Collectors may submit lists of items wanted for > their > collections for listing here. > Dealers and collectors who have these items, are > then > encouraged to list them for sale in the above > section > as a reply. > Wanted listings will run for a period of 1 month. > > WANTED > CURRENCY LEAFLETS OF THE FIRST GULF WAR: > blurry brown and grey-blue, Friedman type 2 > (Johnson > type C61) CIA full color 25 dinar, Friedman types > 3,6 > (Johnson types F04 and one unlisted by him). This > has > white margins on the face and may be on light-weight > paper. > CURRENCY LEAFLETS OF THE BOSNIAN INTERVENTION and > CURRENCY LEAFLETS OF THE SECOND GULF WAR: > Any that you have at hand that illustrate a > banknote > on one or both sides. > Joseph E. 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