Status: U Return-Path: Received: from web5204.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.106.85]) by niles.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with SMTP id t903b8.p99.37kbi1o for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:59:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010218175903.17758.qmail@web5204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.200.37] by web5204.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:59:03 PST Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:59:03 -0800 (PST) From: MPCgram Subject: MPCGram 258 To: mpcgram@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==================================================== MPC Gram ==================================================== Covering the Entire World of Military Numismatics ---------------------------------------------------- Series 002-Number 258 Sunday 18 February 2001 More--It is in the numbers by Fred Schwan It is also possible to calculate the sheet number from which a note came. First, let us take the case of a serial number lower than 672,000. Subtract one from the position number and multiply by 8000. That gives you the number of notes printed before the note. Now subtract that number from the serial number and you have the sheet number! Easy. Now we will look at an example. Serial number 00314482 position 40. Multiply (40-1) x 8000 [312,000]. Subtract that from the serial number and you find that the sheet number is 2482. Now for a note that does not have a serial number lower than one unit (672,000), Try serial number 06769131, position 7. Divide the serial number by the 672,000 [10.07] and round the result down. That will tell you how many full units were printed before the unit in which your note was printed [10]. Multiply that number by 672,000 [6,720,000] to get the number of sheets before the unit in question. Subtract that number from the serial number [49,131]. Now we have a problem similar to the very first one. Subtract 1 from the position number [7-1=6] and multiply by 8000 [48,000]. Subtract this from the result above [49,131-48,0000] and you have the sheet number in the last unit [1,131]. In some cases this number itself might be significant as with multiple printings, but for the complete sheet number add this to the total for completed units above [1,131+(10 completed units x 8000 sheets/unit=80,000 sheets)=sheet 81,131]. Now we will try another example: serial number 01232001, position 71. 1232001/672000 = 1.8, round down to 1, 1 x 672,000 = 672,000 notes printed from completed units 1232001 - 672,000 = 560,001 position 71 - 1 for the current position = 70. 70 completed positions x 8000 notes/position = 560,000 560,001 - 560,000 = 1, this is the first sheet of unit two. This is a very interesting example, because the serial number is of an important and well known note. It was the first reported series 481 50˘ replacement! By the way, that first report held up for more than 2000 additional reports before another was found, and the number was telling us lots of things. We did not appreciate it at the time, but the fact that the replacement was from the second unit of numbers indicated that it was a second printing replacement. Furthermore, even though it had a serial number of well over half a million, it was proving that only 84 second printing replacements were issued! Exceptions! Of course there are some exception. We will discuss those next time. ==================================================== Editorial ---------------------------------------------------- There was a little test in the introduction, I said that MPC sheets had 84/70/40 images per sheet. Of course the correct answer is 84/70/50! Ok, so it was more of a typo than a test. Sorry about that, but pleased for the joy that it gave at least a few of you in catching me in THAT sort of typo! =================================================== Mail Call --------------------------------------------------- Dear Gram, I got my Boise 1 cent scrip from Grover Criswell about 24 yrs ago. Criswell was the only dealer who I ever saw that advertised these neat items. I wish I had bought more than one. My daughter exhibited it at the Texas Numismatic Association convention a couple of years ago. Frank C. Grammers, Series 681 embodies the military spirit with superb vignettes of soldiers, sailors, subs, tanks, planes, and an extra bonus, the dawn of the space age. Without a doubt, one of my favorites. In my collecting experience, this is a hard set to come by, due to its high collectible nature by non-MPC connoisseurs. While surfing today, I came across a complete UNC set for sale at Amazon.com/ Z Shops. The dealer is Nova Online Inc. (auction@novacoins.com). The Five dollar note has a matching pos # 5. The twenty is a first printing. This is a direct purchase, so hurry and don't forget to bargain. Having already completed a beautiful set of my own, I am passing this info on to you. Enjoy it... James Rose Dear Editor In reference to the item from Bill ( Kansas) in Gram 257. I have attempted to locate the club that issued these and was advised that they aren't around anymore, (I was attempting to obtain one for my collection). Does anyone have information where these can be located. Also the ones that were produced by the ANA ( 50th anniversary) are still available (total of 8 in the set). Thanks. Wes PS Love reading the Gram. Dear Wes, Thanks for writing. Aside to Bill K(ansas), see, you really do need to tell the story! Editor Dear Editor, Just thought I would pass this letter along to you from one of my eBay clients (in regards to the MPC book): Mr. Yanchick, My items arrived today and I have left positive feedback for you. I did however have one reservation about doing so. From what I can tell, you have been in the business for a while and probably have your own collection as well. You could have warned a "Newbie" such as myself, that Fred Schwan's book wasn't just a reference but would suck me in! From the time I got the mail and retrieved it from your careful packaging around noon my time, I have been completely involved in not only the way it is easy to understand and grasp the concepts and theories, but the history and the artwork alone was worth the purchase. I have already forgiven you for the lack of warning me from myself, but my wife? That's another story! Thanks a million! If you’re ever in the need of a gunsmith, look me up and I'll treat you right. Bill Y Dear Bill, Thanks for sharing the letter. I must say that gunsmith got it right. It was our intention all long with the book to show everyone the wonderful world of MPC and thereby "suck them in." Gunsmith is now a gramster too. Editor =================================================== Departments --------------------------------------------------- WWII numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar 2001 --------------------------------------------------- Not only does the scholarship fund have an official identity but also has a bank account! Any further donations should be paid to the order of "Military Numismatists Scholarship" and sent to: Military Numismatists c/o Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, IN 46123 THE UPDATED LIST OF SCHOLARSHIP BENEFACTORS 2/12/01. These folks have generously provided money or material to finance scholarships to the ANA WWII Numismatics seminar. Your contributions will help promote collecting WWII material and be greatly appreciated. Mr. Anonymous Donor Mike Cummings Sue and Keith Bauman Ed B. Doug Bell Tom Denly, Denly's R. A. Medina Harold MPCKid Kroll Leo "Paymaster" May Mrs. R.C. Matherne Bill McNease Marcus Turner Larry Ski Fred PK6 Joel Shafer World Wide Ventures John & Nancy Wilson Neil Shafer W. E. Yanchick ----------------------------------------------------- MPC Fest II ----------------------------------------------------- MPC Fest is the annual feast of MPC. After some difficulties of coordination we have not changed the dates and tentatively scheduled 9-11 March 2001 for MPC Fest II. Confirmed participants in MPC Fest II Doug Bell Sam Feeback Al Glaser Phil Goldstein Rod Hardy Wesley Hardy Harold Kroll Jack Lippincott Ian Marshall Larry Smulczenski Bill McNease Leo May Kevin Maloy Marv Mericle Bruce Potter David Seelye Nick Schrier Fred Schwan Dan Swartz Warner Talso (and Jane) Marcus Turner Tom Warburton William E Yanchick Dick Freyser (We are well past last year's participation level. We have doubled that level. Can we triple it, more? If you have made a reservation and your name does not appear above, please contact the gram immediately (MPCgram@yahoo.com). PayPal and PayDirect are available, the associated email address is fred@papermoneyworld.com. It works great. We love it. Tentative schedule as of 15 February 2001 Friday March 9 1500-1900 Arrivals at Comfort Inn 1900-2030 no host dinner at Cisco and Charlies 2030-2300 bull session at Comfort Inn 2400 lights out Saturday breakfast at Comfort Inn 0730-0845 breakfast at Service Club 0900-1000 equipment issue (supply sergeant) 1000-1100 pay operations (pay master) 1100-1230 show and tell, session I 1230-1330 pizza party at Service Club (mess sergeant) 1330-1800 swap session (dealer surcharge, TBD) 1800-1930 spaghetti dinner at Service Club (mess sergeant) 1930-2030 secret operations 2000-2345 commemorative poker game at Comfort Inn 2200 MPC chat (simultaneous with poker game) 2400 lights out Sunday 0830-0900 breakfast at Service Club 0900-1000 research updates 1000-1230 show and tell 1230-1330 lunch at Service Club 1300-1500 field trip to WWII POW camp 1530 closing ceremonies Monday (optional, weather permitting) 0600-0630 breakfast at Service Club 0700-1400 Walleye fishing trip Remarks: registration is $139 per person (for reservations after February 15 $164, after March 1, $189). This includes two nights lodging (double occupancy, room assignments by first sergeant the only possible exception is married couples), Meals as indicated (Friday evening not included), equipment and amenities. The value of souvenirs and goodies distributed will likely exceed the cost of the entire Fest. Reservations accepted now at MPCGram@yahoo.com, deposits ($50 minimum) accepted at MPC Fest, 132 East Second Street, Port Clinton, Ohio 43452. Confirmed reservations will be listed daily in the gram—make your reservations now! Additional information; the Comfort Inn is located at 1723 East Perry Street, Port Clinton, Oh 43452, you may use one of the online map services to get exact driving directions. DO NOT make your own reservations or inquiries. The best airports in order of distance are Toledo (45 mins), Cleveland (90 mins), Detroit (100 mins). We will try to coordinate ground transportation, but there are no guarantees here. Questions: send your questions to MPCgram@yahoo.com. In most cases the questions will be answered in the letters section of the gram. After all, if you have the question, someone else probably does too. ==================================================== Post/Base Exchange (PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! Your classified advertisement for items for sale will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more interesting. Send in a list of items for sale and we will list them here in the gram. In all cases confirm your order via email first. FOR SALE Retail Merchants Bureau of Boise, Idaho "tokens," $5.00, limit ONE shipped postpaid. (please no checks on this item) WOW!! These are by the way, new, mint, as made, uncirculated or whatever you wish to call them. So in honor of Presidents Day, rush your payment to: Doric C&C POB 911 N Attleborough MA 02761-0911-11 USA AMC Japanese B one yen pieces: SB 263B (BEP B-B) vf 12.00. Contact Tom at kochfam@gte.net. MPC Series 641 50c CU $21, David Seelye, email for confirmation coinman@rochester.rr.com. US military chits: NCO & EM Open Mess/Cam Ranh Bay 96312 $10 booklet covers with one each 5, 10, 25 (canceled) chits, $35, email for confirmation iam@total.net WANTED Collectors may submit lists of items wanted for their collections for listing here. Dealers and collectors who have these items are then encouraged to list them for sale in the above section. This is a trial, if you like it, send your list. 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