Status: U Return-Path: Received: from web5201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.106.95]) by hazard.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with SMTP id tcjtr8.gb9.37kb01i for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010403161550.29762.qmail@web5201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.206.204] by web5201.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:15:50 PDT Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: MPCgram Subject: MPCGram 299 To: MPCGram@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==================================================== MPC Gram ==================================================== Covering the Entire World of Military Numismatics ---------------------------------------------------- Series 002-Number 299 Tuesday, April 3, 2001 Training Money Revisited Revisited By Joe Boling We have discussed the training money before, in terms of printings, colors, paper, and so forth, but not all of the information here was in the previous posting. The following is from a letter I wrote in 1986 to an author. The souvenir $4 note is in many collections; I don't have a place to point you for an illustration, but if you have one you will be able to tell whether it is the same one discussed here (I know of only one design). Reference your article about the Finance Center $4 note in the Jan/Feb 1986 issue of Paper Money. That piece is not a part of the several series of training money used at Fort Harrison; it is purely a souvenir issue. For instance, one was at every person's place at table for a large "Dining In" semi-official dinner I attended at Fort Harrison in 1981 or 1982. I had already had one in my collection for several years before that. The "FCUSA 1953" on the face of the $4 note represents the foundation date of the Finance Center, US Army (see the writeup on the back of the note). The horizontal diamonds in evidence throughout are the collar insignia for the Finance Corps. The building shown on the face is Ft. Harrison's "Building 1," the second-largest (behind the Pentagon) Army office building in the world, and the home of FCUSA and many other organizations. The other training money shown in your article is not MPC training money, but is intended to mimic greenbacks. It also exists with a different main title: "United States Army Finance School." There was a separate series (completely different design) intended to represent MPC, as well as two series in francs and marks, and the long series of LOGEX dollars--all produced at Fort Harrison over the years for use in finance and postal clerk courses and the LOGEX exercises. The dollar-design AG School series you showed comes in dark green and bright green, as well as a $20 bill in light dull green. In short, every time they need to reprint the pieces, you run a chance of getting a new color shade. The building on the training money, Gates-Lord Hall, is the principal academic building on Ft. Harrison, and at various times has housed the Finance School, the Adjutant General School, the School of Computer Science, the Defense Information School, the Recruiting School, the School of Personnel Management, and others I can't recall (many simultaneously). The umbrella organization for these schools when I left there in 1982 was the US Army Institute of Personnel and Resource Management, subordinate to the US Army Soldier Support Center (SSC and USAFAC are the two largest organizations on Ft. Harrison, each commanded by a major general). Fort Harrison has been closed, although there are still reserve organizations there, and I understand that Building 1 is still Army property. The finance center was merged with the other services' centers in Cleveland several years ago. I have no idea what Gates-Lord Hall is used for now. ==================================================== Editorial We ran into a little trouble yesterday with our mail box overflowing. Of course that is not unusual. But this time it was really overflowing and Yahoo returned some mail with an appropriate message. If you tried to send some mail and received it back, please send it again. This is another of the problems that requires our attention here at HQ. The really good part of the above problem is that we not only love receiving mail, but it (mail) is also what sustains the Gram! =================================================== Mail Call --------------------------------------------------- Dear Gram, I had a call from a Mr. Spark who wanted to buy a 2nd issue £5 BAF. He said he wanted to complete his very small collection and the following is why: “I was stationed in Berlin in the 70's with the Green Howards Band. As a senior rank I got picked as one of six senior ranks to dispose of BAF's. We were put in a room with lots of money, we had to count it, then just burn it. I helped to burn £35,000. We all signed a form to the effect that we had burned it. If any notes found their way back to the Service, we would have all been court martialled.” An interesting story, albeit without a lot of substance, such as exactly what notes, but, I suppose at the time, it was just a job. Any grammatical errors must be ignored. Regards Pam West Dear Pam, We certainly would be happy to hear more from this fellow and to send him the Gram. Editor Dear Gram: I have a two part question perhaps you could answer. Respecting the MPC series 691 and 701, are they still being stored or has their destruction been confirmed. And if they are in storage, what is the likelihood of another dispersal? Thanks for your help. James Dear James, I am tempted to just give the nonsensical answer, “yes.” The first printings almost certainly have been destroyed. Most of the indications are that the second printings also were destroyed. However, we have no absolute confirmation of this. Marcus Turner has been working on this question. If he has any additional information, I am sure that he will share it with us as a result of your letter. Editor Dear Editor, Like you, well maybe not quite as famous as you, I have misplaced temporarily my copy of your book. I have boxes of stuff stored in 1 bedroom, the garage and the basement.. Collector osis, a condition known to serious, but neat, collector persons. Regards, webfootbob =================================================== Departments --------------------------------------------------- WWII numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar 2001 --------------------------------------------------- Not only does the scholarship fund have an official identity but also has a bank account! Any further donations should be paid to the order of "Military Numismatists Scholarship" and sent to: Military Numismatists c/o Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, IN 46123 THE UPDATED LIST OF SCHOLARSHIP BENEFACTORS 3/5/01. 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