Status: U Return-Path: Received: from web5201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.106.95]) by strange.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with SMTP id td3oq1.3je.37kbi0u for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010409162845.12975.qmail@web5201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.12.105.58] by web5201.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:28:45 PDT Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT) From: MPCgram Subject: MPCGram 304 To: MPCGram@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==================================================== MPC Gram ==================================================== Covering the Entire World of Military Numismatics ---------------------------------------------------- Series 002-Number 304 Sunday, April 8, 2001 More on 641 progressive notes By Fred Schwan Phil Goldstein wants more information on the. progressive proof set that he recently obtained. Of course every collector wants more information on important new items. I do not have all of the answers but I do have some info. The set in question entered collector’s circles in the 1970s. Ted Uhl bought a double set of Series 641 progressive proofs. The two sets included all seven denominations and a specimen of each. The sets were joined. That is each denomination came as a mini sheet of two pieces. Until that time, no such progressive proofs had been reported in private hands although some were in various government museums and archives. Uhl offered the double set for sale in a large advertisement in the Bank Note Reporter. This lead should give Phil something to do. That advertisement should be found. Ted asked a price that sounded astronomical at the time, but of course sounds very cheap today. I do not remember the price, but when Phil finds that ad, we will know. The set(s) did not sell. Ted then cut the sets apart. Obviously, this made two complete sets, but Ted added a twist. He separated the specimens from one of the sets creating a specimen set and leaving the progressives. One complete set of progressives with specimens was sold to a physician in Illinois. Uhl then marketed the other specimen set and progressive sets. Unfortunately, I do not remember many details of what happened to those sets. The specimen notes and the progressive sets were sold several times among collectors and dealers as frequently happens. Some or all of the specimens and possibly some of the progressive notes appeared in NASCA sales in the 1970s and 1980s. That is another lead for Phil! Eventually all of the pieces found good homes and have been off the market for many years. In 1989, I visited the physician who had bought a complete set and was able to buy the set from him. I then resold it to another collector where it remains. Both when I bought it and sold it, it seemed like a huge amount of money, but now both seem cheap. Is there a theme here? Most or all of the progressive sets in government hands that have multiple notes “attached” are in sheetlets of four. Because of that, for many years, I thought that Uhl had obtained a booklet of four sets and cut them apart and only offered one pair publicly. The other likely possibility was that the person from whom Uhl acquired the notes had bisected a set of four and kept one pair. I even had a theory of who the person was! No both Uhl and my “candidate” have gone to that great bourse in the sky so it will be hard to get information from them. Now that more than twenty years have passed since Uhl first offered the notes and no other pieces from a booklet of four seem to have come out, I have changed my opinion. I still believe that the pair of sets came from a sets of four, but I now believe that Uhl only had the one pair of sets. I also believe that only one pair passed into private hands. ==================================================== Editorial ---------------------------------------------------- Well Maastricht is now over so I can finally get over being jealous of the guys who went. Since they did not send us any reports from the site, we will have to rely upon them to give detailed reports after the fact, either from Europe or after they get home. =================================================== Mail Call Dear Gram, You perpetuated an error in reprinting the NI obit for Bill Benson. He was NOT on the board of the IBNS at the time he died. Joe Gramsters, I found a note in my "stuff" with a name and address on it that I do not recognize. It is as follows; Wing Cmdr B.H. Swallow Manor Cottage Bolehyde Manor Allington… England He is very likely a numismatist, or experienced something connected to numismatics. I do not want to write a "I do not know who you are, but I found your name and address in my stuff letter". If any of you know this person, please contact me about him. Thank you. Howard "Trung Si" Daniel Dear Howard, We did not want anyone else writing to B. H. either (I was tempted) so we shortened the address, but it should still be good enough to be recognizable! Editor =================================================== Departments --------------------------------------------------- WWII numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar 2001 --------------------------------------------------- Not only does the scholarship fund have an official identity but also has a bank account! Any further donations should be paid to the order of "Military Numismatists Scholarship" and sent to: Military Numismatists c/o Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, IN 46123 THE UPDATED LIST OF SCHOLARSHIP BENEFACTORS 3/22/01. These folks have generously provided money or material to finance scholarships to the ANA WWII Numismatics seminar. Your contributions will help promote collecting WWII material and be greatly appreciated. Many donations were received at CPMX and MPCFest. Mr. Anonymous Donor, Mike Cummings, Sue and Keith Bauman, Ed B., Doug Bell, Tom Denly, Denly's, R. A. Medina, Harold “MPCKid” Kroll, Leo "Paymaster" May, Mrs. R.C. Matherne, Bill McNease, Mel and Jeremy Steinberg, Marcus Turner, Larry Ski, Guido, Fred, PK6, Joel Shafer, World Wide Ventures, Pam West, John and Nancy Wilson, Neil Shafer, W. E. Yanchick, Mark Watson, Al Glaser, Phil Goldstein, Rod Hardy, Wesley Hardy, Gary Hicks, Jack Lippincott, Ian Marshall, Kevin Maloy, David Seelye, Nick Schrier, Elmer Smith, Dan Swartz, Tom Warburton, Dick Freyser, Tim Kyzivat ==================================================== Post/Base Exchange (PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! 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