Status: U Return-Path: Received: from web12701.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.238]) by farley.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with SMTP id tqqk91.k79.37kbi1c for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 23:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010923030400.54868.qmail@web12701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.191.147.143] by web12701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:04:00 PDT Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:04:00 -0700 (PDT) From: MPCgram Subject: MPCGram 441/3 To: MPCGram@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ============================================== MPC Gram ============================================== Covering the Entire World of Military Numismatics ----------------------------------------------- Series 002-Number 441 Saturday, September 22, 2001 Propaganda Stamps and Notes by Herb Friedman collect both the porpaganda stamps and banknotes. In many cases the same people did both. It was also why I used to argue that the stamps were as valid as real stamps. They were made by a government agency, they were placed in government transportation, and they were disseminated officially to recipients. Of course, the judges often did not agree with me. Below is an article on green sheets. Of course, this is not really what a neophyte needs to see. You really need the long descriptive intro to the stamps. ______________ The green Hitler sheet Green, rouletted Hitler's birthday sheet [Mi. 18b]. For many years, following the lead of Joachim Hosang, these sheets were considered frauds, printed after the war. Those few authorities who have had an opportunity to compare both the red and green sheets side-by-side disagree on whether the green sheets were printed from the same plates as the red sheets. Since 1988 the Michel Deutschland-Spezial-Katalog has listed this sheet as a genuine wartime propaganda forgery; Michel illustrated a green rouletted sheet in its 1988 and perhaps 1989 catalogs before returning to an illustration of a red sheet. Since the printing plates were never found or reported destroyed, there is a possibility, even a probability, that the rouletted green sheets were printed postwar from the original plates. Fewer green than red sheets are known. The rouletting shows only indistinctly in photographs or photocopies, thereby denying easy identification of individual sheets. Below is a summary of known information on green sheets: (a) A Mr. Breuer of Bern, Switzerland, acquired a green sheet having two vertical folds sometime well before 1962, when the known record commences. By 1962, when the sheet was presumably sold to an unknown person, the stamps were signed by Hosang, and the sheet was accompanied by a Hosang letter dated 15 February 1962 stating that (1) it appears the sheet came from Breuer of Bern, (2) Hosang had expertised the sheet for Breuer years before, (3) the green sheet was made from the same plates as the red sheets, and (4) Breuer had originally priced the sheet at 2,000 DM. A sheet with two vertical folds, probably the same sheet, was offered in Henry Passier's 25th Special Auction on 19 August 1967 (lot #1996), starting at 1,500 DM. It was described as having two vertical folds since the sheets were folded and distributed in envelopes. A sheet with two vertical folds, again, probably this same sheet, was offered in the June 1991 Wallach auction in Israel. It was purchased by Cherrystone for $500, and was offered in the Cherrystone auction of September 1991 starting at $2,000; it sold for $2,100 to an American collector. The sheet is depicted as genuine in Bohne's GPS Reference Manual of Forgeries, Release #39, November 1996; the Hosang letter is also shown. (b) Sometime prior to 1978, Werner Bohne acquired a green sheet with staple holes in the right margin. Bohne reports that an official memorandum had been attached to the sheet. The memorandum mentioned that since the original German sheet was green the OSS parody also should be green. In addition, the memorandum questioned the advisability of producing the parody, since it would not fit on a standard German envelope while still leaving room for an address. Bohne said he was under a constraint never to release this memo, and other authorities have not seen it. We presume that until this time Bohne had thought the green sheets were fraudulent, but now he was encouraged to investigate further. In 1978, he contacted a German specialist, who examined enlarged photographs of the Bohne green sheet and the Hosang red sheet. His conclusion was that the Bohne green sheet was produced from a new printing plate that was based on a photograph of an authentic (red) sheet, and that therefore the Bohne sheet was a postwar fake. It is thought that Bohne then sold the sheet thinking it fraudulent, but later, probably sometime after 2 April 1983 when Bundesprüfer Emil Ludin issued a certificate of authenticity for the sheet, Bohne changed his opinion and began urging Michel to treat the green sheet as genuine. The green sheet with staple holes is depicted as genuine in Werner Bohne's GPS Reference Manual of Forgeries, Release #39, November 1996. In the forgery manual, Bohne emphasizes the staple holes in the sheet and describes the official memorandum. The Ludin certificate is included in the forgery manual. The present owner is unknown. (c) A Minnisota specialist was offered a green sheet for $100, but the St. Paul dealer Mayer Krawetz changed his mind after becoming concerned that it might be genuine and raised the price to $3,000. Krawetz claimed that he got the sheet from a Chicago dealer named Capone! (No such dealer was listed in the Chicago APS directory.) Krawetz was unable to sell the sheet in the United States, so he gave it to a philatelic agent, who sold it to Köhler Auctions for $5,000. Köhler offered it in his 268th Auction in 1990, but could find no one to expertise it. Allegedly it was returned to Krawetz. It is believed that a collector in the St. Paul area currently owns the sheet ============================================== Editorial ----------------------------------------------- The new MPC book consists of seventeen laid out text files and hundreds of scans. Very often these projects turn into file management projects more than numismatic research projects. That is the stage that we are in now. Two of the seventeen files were corrupted and a great problem. I had back ups, but I was uncertain how many revisions might be lost when the back ups were used. Well, that was an optimistic problem, because the back ups had prblems too. Because of this prblem I procrastinated on working on it. When I finally started working on the files, it was not even a big problem so the files are now fixed and we are back to work! Now I am excited about the project again. You still have a little time to make a contribution! ============================================== Mail Call ----------------------------------------------- Hi Fred, Here is a copy of my letter, thanks for everything Fred. I checked them out again today and got another warm feeling all over. What great notes, and to know that I own them. My collection is looking better every day. Hope you get a chance to go to Alaska, you will love the cruise as well, we sure did have a great time. Got great pictures as well. From one happy guy, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Hansen To: MPCgram (Fred) Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: MPC - 691 and 701 Sets Dear Gram, I arranged to purchase a set of MPC Series 691 and 701. I received the notes today. I had to go to the post office to get them, we just got back from a cruise to Alaska for 13 days, what a great trip, we sure did have a good time, we were on the Radisson Seven Seas Mariner, that is some ship, we really enjoyed it. When I got the notes, I went out of my mind, they are so GREAT, yes, I was quite excited. What a way to end a great cruise looking at the notes.... They are better than the cruise, but don't tell my wife I said so.. (Ha-Ha) This made my day, week, month, year, life.... Gary H. Dear Gram: As a long term collector of MPC and a former Air Force Accounting & Finance Officer I enjoy every issue of the MPCGram. Keep up the good work. Gary Lewis ANA Vice President ================================================ Departments ------------------------------------------------- Calendar of events for Gramsters maintained by Howard Daniel, Nancy and John Wilson and Gram staff, last updated September 7, 2001 show reports are requested on all events. Even if it was not a great show, there must be something to report. What and whom did you see? Market activity? Share your observations and thoughts with Gramsters everywhere. ---------------------------------------------------- September 21 - 23, 2001, Paul Padget's 18th Annual Greater Cincinnati Numismatic Exposition, Sharonville Convention Center, Small Auction by Paul Padget and major paper money auction by Currency Auctions of America contact Paul Padget at (513) 821-2143 September 21 - 23, 2001, Virginia Numismatic Association, 43rd Annual Coin Show, Northern Virginia Community College Ernst Center, Annandale, VA September 21 - 23, 2001, Bick International Expos (www.bick.net) River Palms Hotel Casino, Glendale, CA September 27 - 30, 2001, North East Ohio Coin Club, 41st Annual Show, 100 Tables, Holiday Inn, Route 82 At I-71, Strongville, OH Phillips Auction October 4, 2001 October 5-6. 2001Remy Bourne Literature Auction featuring selections from the Katen library. Contact Remy at 1/800789-7005 for information October 4 - 7, 2001, long Beach Coin and Collectible Expo Long Beach California Convention Center, 400 booths, Educational Programs, Auctions by Heritage and Ponterio Spink Auction October 5, 2001 World Paper Money Fair, run by London Chapter of IBNS, October 6/7, 2001 Special "MPC" events March 2002 8-10 - MPCFest III - reservations in order received: Guido Crapanzano, Harold Kroll, Larry Smulczenski, Gary "Got any fours" Hicks, Tom Warburton, David Seelye, Jack Lippincot, Phil Goldstein, Warner Talso, Nich Schrier, Tom Koch, Mark Watson, Bill Yanchick, Doug Bell, Sam Feeback, Fred Schwan {running total 16}] W.W.II numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar, July 2002 Session I (Sunday, June 30 through Thursday, July 4, 2002) Session II (Sunday, July 7 through Thursday, July 11, 2002) --------------------------------------------------- Donations are now being accepted for scholarships to the 2002 "Military Money" course at the 2002 ANA Summer Seminar. Inquiries and donations should be sent to: Military Numismatists c/o Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, IN 46123 Donors to 2002 Scholarship Fund Steve Feller Harold Kroll R. A. Medina Guido Crapanzano David Seelye Steve Feller Harold Kroll R. A. Medina Guido Crapanzano David Seelye Leo May Warner Talso Marv Mericle Mark Watson ==================================================== Post/Base Exchange (PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! Your classified advertisement for items for sale will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more interesting. Send in a list of items for sale and we will list them here in the gram. In all cases confirm your order via email first. FOR SALE Series 661 $5.00 GEM Crisp Unc $25.00 insured postpaid. 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