Status: U Return-Path: Received: from web12707.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.244]) by pickering.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with SMTP id tu8c2k.a28.37kbi14 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:58:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011103175843.3869.qmail@web12707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.198.31] by web12707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 09:58:43 PST Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:58:43 -0800 (PST) From: MPCgram Subject: MPCGram 476/3 To: MPCGram@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ============================================== MPC Gram ============================================== Covering the Entire World of Military Numismatics ----------------------------------------------- Series 002-Number 476 Saturday, November 3, 2001 Shop robbed Battleground Antiques, Inc., New Bern, NC, was burglarized on 10/16/01 and a substantial amount of gold coin, silver coin, paper money and fine collectibles was stolen. The phone lines were cut, the security system bypassed, the camera system rendered useless and safes were peeled. Over 300 US gold coins, from 1840's $1 to current $20 Eagle Proofs were taken, the bulk being $1, 2.5, 5, 10 & 20 coins from 1849 to 1925. 95% of the coins were AU-50 or better, and many were slabbed. Some were in 2x2 protectors (adhesive type). Also taken was a quantity of silver certificates of $1, $5 and $10 denominations, many signed by the Secretary of the Treasury of the time. There was also $1,800 in uncirculated, initial re-issue $2 notes, all with the BEP wrappers intact, sequentially numbered. Other items stolen included several rare antique gold pocket watches, over 200 silver dollars, Englehard and Matthey silver, gold and platinum bars from 10 to 100 troy oz., and approximately 150 foreign gold coins from Panda's to Kruggerands. There were approximately 30 each 1/10 oz. US Eagles and Austrailian Kangaroos in the small plastic mint retainers. A circulated $500 note was taken and several 1930's $100 notes. Any information which can be shared with others to assist in the investigation will be deeply appreciated. Please contact the Craven County Sheriff's Office, Sgt. Ike Strawbridge, (252)636-6620, or Will Gorges at this email. Thank you and God Bless America! ============================================== Editorial ---------------------------------------------- It is sad when we run a story like that above. In this case the theft was not directly MPC or military money, but it is still a tragedy. Part of the decision to run this story was based upon the fact that the last time that we ran such a story, a Gramster was instrumental in finding some of the material. ============================================== Mail Call ---------------------------------------------- Dear Mr Editor: This weekend is the Indiana State Numismatic Association (ISNA) in Indianapolis. The show will be held at the Indianapolis Marriott 7202 E. 21st St. Indianapolis IN. While it has not traditionally been a great show for military money, it will have exhibits by myself and Marv Mericle. Marv took best of show last year with his MPC exhibit. Marcus A Turner Hi Gramsters, What an excellent Gram # 475 is. Kudos goes out to David Klinger for his article "If cable news had been available in 1944..." . He hit the nail right on the head with this one. The news people who act like this and the news program directors who encourage it, are insane and dangerous and should all be put in rubber rooms where they can do no harm to our military forces. Anyone who studies history knows the importance of secrecy in war. I personally believe that the American people do not have a right to know the details of the conduct of our military forces in war, until long after the war is over, because as we (meaning students of military history) all know the conduct of war is not a civilized, clean cut, and easy to rationalize human activity. I believe the only thing that people on the homefront really want to hear about a war in progress is, "Are we winning and is it over yet?" and even if we are not they want to be told that we are. Remember all the Spanish-American, WW I and WW II, etc. propaganda and news reporting with a positive slant? Negative news was downplayed and only reported long after it may have been of any use to the enemy. I totaly agree with Larry Smulczenski's article on grading and slabbing currency, like they do coins. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY! I was really into coin collecting until the investors and their slabbing ruined it. I still collect, but I have nothing to do with MS-66-67.2-69.8-71 slabbed garbage. Grading is more an art then a science. I collect what appeals to me aesthetically. Sometimes a well worn used coin or a well used piece of mpc has character and charm in the fact that they obviously served their intended purpose. Take Care All, Gavin Dear Gavin, Thanks for your nice words and thoughts. We have not heard from you for awhile, hopefully you will not wait so long before writing again. Editor Gentlemen, I have a 2s 6p serial No DD/7 86698 in dark red and a DD/8 088631 in black both on wmk paper w/o security strips. I also have a 5s serial No CD/1 122592 in dark red and a CD/1 112458 in black both again on wmk paper w/o security strips. Granted the serial No's are not as bright red as P-M19a or P-M20a but they are definitely not black! I will be glad to bring them to the MSNS show in November or CPMX in March for your viewing pleasure! I agree that the 3p, 6p and 1s notes do not have serial numbers and I apologize for that incorrect statement in my letter. However the remaining high denomination notes of that series do have serial numbers of which my copies only have black serial numbers. I still ask why some of these notes might not show up with other the black serial numbers to match my P-M19a and P-M20a? Keith In respone to Profressor Ski, I wholeheartedly agree. I like to "feel" my notes... Determination of embossing, folds, smells, other such methods to determine authenticity, or lack of care. (Anyone smell a musty moldy note? Then you know it wasn't properly cared for.) I'll keep using my Cowens Mylar-D holders, as well as their 3 and 4 pocket sheets to house my collection, in Heavy Duty D ring binders. Leave slabbing to coins, which in my opinion, are more delicate, and more subject to damage from dropping, and in high grade need protective help. Phil ================================================ Departments ------------------------------------------------- Calendar of events for Gramsters maintained by Howard Daniel, Nancy and John Wilson and Gram staff, last updated September 7, 2001 show reports are requested on all events. Even if it was not a great show, there must be something to report. What and whom did you see? Market activity? Share your observations and thoughts with Gramsters everywhere. ---------------------------------------------------- Special "MPC" events March 2002 8-10 - MPCFest III - reservations in order received: Guido Crapanzano, Harold Kroll, Larry Smulczenski, Gary "Got any fours" Hicks, Tom Warburton, David Seelye, Jack Lippincot, Phil Goldstein, Warner Talso, Nick Schrier, Richard Freyser, Tom Koch, Mark Watson, Bill Yanchick, Doug Bell, Sam Feeback, Bruce Potter, Elmer Smith, Marv Mericle, Wes and Rod Hardy, Fred Schwan {running total 22}] W.W.II numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar, July 2002 Session I (Sunday, June 30 through Thursday, July 4, 2002) Session II (Sunday, July 7 through Thursday, July 11, 2002) general events will return soon --------------------------------------------------- Donations are now being accepted for scholarships to the 2002 "Military Money" course at the 2002 ANA Summer Seminar. Inquiries and donations should be sent to: Military Numismatists c/o Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, IN 46123 Donors to 2002 Scholarship Fund Steve Feller Harold Kroll R. A. Medina Guido Crapanzano David Seelye Leo May Warner Talso Marv Mericle Mark Watson Gail Baker ==================================================== Post/Base Exchange (PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! Your classified advertisement for items for sale will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more interesting. Send in a list of items for sale and we will list them here in the gram. In all cases confirm your order via email first. FOR SALE For sale: 481 replacement 10C third print, serial number D01656387 in VF condition. Price is $450 shipping included. The note can be seen at http://trunghanhnguyen.tripod.com/481r, please confirm "Trung Nguyen"