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MPC Gram
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Covering the entire World of Military Numismatics
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Series 003-Number 579, Saturday, March 30, 2002
Replacements--give me a break
by Doug Bell
Dealers are now replacement wise and are pointing out
when they have a replacement available. Sleepers do
crop up from time to time. But what is New to these
Dealers are the data listed in the new Comprehensive
Catalog of Military Payment Certificates. MPC is
unique in that there are many aspects that are just
now coming out about MPC due to the research done by
Fred Schwan and Larry Smulczenski.
Time and time again I see items listed on EBay and
other auctions where there is given NO respect as to
the Sn number. This relatively new way of searching
for notes of great rarity seems to be greatly ignored.
Although many of the truly great and dedicated MPC
collectors know about THE NUMBERS, there are many
dealers and collectors that seem to ignore the
potential for displaying or listing THE NUMBERS, aside
from the few that collect position numbers.
This aspect of MPC is still a gold mine for the right
note. So the dealers / collectors who don't provide
THE NUMBERS are hurting themselves when selling MPC.
Discoveries are sill being made. With the MPC
database on line now it's just a matter of time until
two or more SN numbers that match are located,
although this has been done already with out the
database. The database is programmed so that when an
Sn# is input, it searches numbers for a match
excluding the prefix and suffix. With the inclusion of
the database on the web, I have found an anomaly in
the 541 25 cent notes. It has been known for a while
about the inconsistency of 541 notes especially
replacement numbers and position numbers that don't
follow the math formula for the Sn number. Now there
is a new anomaly: The 541 25-cent notes. I have been
recording the Sn# of unit #17 and have found that all
Sn# in this unit do not mathematically calculate out
right to match the position numbers. The numbers fall
between 10752001 and 11424000. More data is needed
to solve the puzzle as to how the numbering scheme was
laid out. So I am asking all numbers for these notes
that fall into the listed SN# range please be reported
to me for recording. Send them to
doug@papermoneyworld.net The list of notes already
located can be seen at
www.papermoneyworld.net/doug/54125CENT.htm
Thank to all for a great time at the fest, see you
next year
READ the Book First, Show Report by Mike Cummings
by Mike Cummings
Set up at the Collectorama in Lakeland yesterday at
3PM. (BTW, much warmer than at the fest a couple
weekends ago!!!) Dealer setup was yesterday, Thursday
from 3 to 8 PM. Another great MPC dealer (not that I
am) is setup there, none other than Leo May. I was
pleased to see him and did not know he makes the show
but he informed he that once and awhile he does.
Anyway, was on the bourse floor this morning bright
and early. Have the MPC Collectoin (the famous
Cambliss reprints) displayed behind our table which
looks great. Last night sold Leo May a couple notes
(AMC) for $450.00 so am ready for business this
morning. ALSO BOWS is here who wrote a 1200 page book
on Vietnam.
I decided the first order of business today was to
push the new 4th edition. Especially since I have the
back cover. I have already ripped all the competitors
ads out of our copies! Especially Ian Marshall's and
David Seeyles! So don't mind pushing them.
Anyway, while making my way around the bourse this
morning I stopped at a gentleman's table and began to
tell him that I was an MPC dealer and also a
distributor for a great new book, the 4th Edition MPC
Catalog and was offering dealers a great 40%
discount!!!! Even for one copy!!
I had stopped because he had a stack of MPC in
holders wrapped in a rubber band, perhaps 20-25 notes
in his showcase. His immediate comment to me was,
"Well, I don't really do all that much in MPC."
Feeling rejected and sensing I had already lost a sale
I just said, well OK, let me look at your MPC notes
there.
He opened the case and handed me the
stack...........ALL small cent notes, no $5 or $10's,
and a single $1.00 note and the rest all cent notes.
BAAM!
the second note I spotted was a very very nice XF/AU
Series 461 25-Cents note, with NO "A" suffix letter.
Wellllll, after reading Schwan's MPC catalog (Hey Ian
I might not read it through and through but I do read
the IMPORTANT STUFF) I knew this was a REPLACEMENT
NOTE!!!!!
I could NOT believe my eyes, especially after then
and only then,
looking at his price........$40.00. I just said OK,
what kind of deal could I get on the entire lot since
I was really an MPC enthusiast and wanted to buy
them all. The grand total for all the notes came to
$216.75 and he said he guessed he could do the deal at
$175.00.
After much much careful thought I said OK, I'll buy
this deal.
Talking about the old saying, "BUY THE BOOK BEFORE THE
COIN"!!!!!! WOW! Are dealers really this dumb. I spend
a lot of money on books all the time, ONLY if I am
even mildy interested.
Thought I'd share this and thought it was very
fitting for people who don't buy books. Also to give
hope to collectors out there that they CAN find
bargains. I have found replacements before but figured
most dealers knew too..........
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Editorial
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I was (am) a little embarrassed that on Phil's very
first column yesterday, I failed to include his
byline! I think that it was clear enough that it was
his article, but nonetheless, he deserved to have a
real byline. Sorry Phil, and anyone else for whom my
omission may have caused confusion.
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Mail Call
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Dear Editor,
I've E mailed the gram several times recently and
they apparently went to never, never land. Just got a
copy of the new book. Thanks for the listing as a
resource. Hope the replacement info was helpful.
Sounds like I had Harold very frustrated regarding my
481 4th printing $1. How many are now known? Wish you
had tried to establish a value. Have a listing for
the wanted column.
Wanted: any note from series 641 with a serial number
of J02283151J or J22831510J. Please contact Larry
Gibbs @ oth@prairieweb.com
Great work on the new book. May finally get to meet
you in the Springs in July, Missed you last year. (The
serial number above was my USMC serial number when I
was in Nam with the !st MAW in 67/68. They switched to
social security numbers just before I was discharged
in Mid 68.
Take care. Larry Gibbs
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Departments
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Calendar of events for Gramsters maintained by Howard
Daniel, Nancy and John Wilson and Gram staff, last
updated September 7, 2001 show reports are requested
on all events. Even if it was not a great show, there
must be something to report. What and whom did you
see? Market activity? Share your observations and
thoughts with Gramsters everywhere.
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Special "MPC" events
June 29 to July 5
W.W.II numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar, July
2002
Session I (June 29 through July 5, 2002)
Session II (Sunday, July 7 through Thursday, July 11,
2002)
general events will return
2003
CPMX 9 Feb 20-23, MPC Fest IV 28 Feb - 2 Mar, Port
Clinton, OH
(Fest Registrants: Leo May$$, Tom Warburton, Guido
Crapanzano, Dick Freyser, Harold Kroll, Larry
Smulczenski, Kevin Maloy, Doug Bell, Marcus Turner,
Phil Goldstein, Jack Lippincot, Nick Shrier, David
Seelye, Joe Boling, Gary Hicks, Fred Schwan, running
total 17)
ANA 19-22 March Charlotte, NC
2004
CPMX 10, Feb 26-29, MPC Fest V 5-7 March, Port
Clinton, OH
2005
CPMX 11, 24-27 Feb, MPC Fest VI, 4-6 March, Port
Clinton, OH
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Donations are now being accepted for scholarships to
the 2002 "Military Money" course at the 2002 ANA
Summer Seminar. Inquiries and donations should be sent
to maturner@indy.rr.com
or
Military Numismatists
c/o Marcus Turner
8103 East US Highway 36
Suite 163
Avon, IN 46123
Donors to 2002 Scholarship Fund
Steve Feller
Harold Kroll
R. A. Medina
Guido Crapanzano
David Seelye
Leo May
Warner Talso
Marv Mericle
Mark Watson
Gail Baker
Joel Shafer
Ed Hoffman
Howard A. Daniel, III
Keith and Sue Bauman
Mr. 691
Ort Cowles
Neil Shafer
Bill Yanchick
John & Nancy Wilson
Dave Amey
Tim Kyzivat
Gary Hicks
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Hot Contact List
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Below is the BNR Press Hot Contact List. This list
serves several functions. Obviously it is an outreach
by the dealers listed for your business. Most of them
buy and sell MPC. Others organize shows or publish
periodicals. They have supported the new Comprehensive
Catalog of Military Payment Certificates with their
advertising. They deserve your support and patronage.
Secondly, this is a draft from the book that
participating dealers should check for correctness.
Finally, dealers who are not on it and want to can
still get their ads in if they act promptly. Respond
to this email or call (419) 732-6683.
We are sorry if the format is a little messed up here
in the Gram, we are not sure of how to fix it!
Hot Contact List
Dealers and resources for collectors
Please contact these dealers for your collecting
needs. Find the HCL anytime/anywhere via the internet.
Go to www.papermoneyworld.net/hcl.htm.
Name/phone/fax/email
Allens (614) 882-3937 (614) 882-0662 info@allens.com
American Coins & Collectibles (800) 865-3562
American Numismatic Association (800) 367-9723
ana@money.org
Bob Baker (713) 864-3122
Ken Barr (408) 272-3247 ken@kenbarr.com
Fred Bart (810) 979-3400
Dick Balbaton (508) 699-2266 (508) 643-1154
RJBalbaton@AOL.com
Keith and Suzanne Bauman (248) 262-1514
tnaksbauman@earthlink.net
Joe Bissell (602) 440-0442 (602) 494-9103
BNR Press (419) 732-6683 (419) 732-6683
fredschwan@yahoo.com
Remy Bourne (800) 789-7070 (763) 789-4747
Ed Carne (614) 882-3937 (614) 882-0662 info@allens.com
Champion Stamp (212) 489-8130 (212) 581-8130
Cookie Jar Collectibles (301) 604-9225
cjcpi@comcast.net
Guido Crapanzano [39] 2-8056228 [39] 2-4459856
Currency Dealer Newsletter (310) 515-7369
David F. Cieniewicz (205) 852-7015
CGC (602) 493-4758 (602) 494-9103
sales@gradedcurrency.com
Cygnet Charters (419) 734-2422
Ray Czahor (301) 604-9225 cjcpi@comcast.net
Doric Coins & Currency (508) 699-2266 (508) 643-1154
FUN (407) 321-8747
Phil Goldstein (845) 254-MPC1 (6721)IWANTMYMPC@AOL.COM
Great Lakes Bank Note Company (419) 732-6683
Mike Cummings (863) 603-9899 (863) 603-9880
mpccoin@hotmail.com
Great Lakes Bank Note Co (419) 732-6683
IBNS joeboling@aol.com
Essie kashani (909) 627-3996 (909) 627-2776
kashani10@aol.com
Lowel Horwdel (765) 583-2748 765 583-4584
horwdel@inshightbb.com
Lyn Knight (800) 243-5211
Krause Publications (715) 445-2214 (715) 445-4087
bnr@krause.com
Harold Kroll (251) 649-5134 HARBONS@AOL.com
Leo May (305) 271-8391 LeoMayent@aol.com
Ian Marshall (416) 445-0286 (416) 445-0286
iam@total.net
Memphis Coin Club (901) 757-2515
MPCGram (419) 732-6683 MPCGram@Yahoo.com
Bob Reed (504) 361-5684 bobreed@rrcoins.net
Fred Schwan (419) 732-6683
David Seelye (585) 594-1987 (585) 594-2311
R. M. Smythe (800) 622-1880 (212) 908-4047
Military Trader (800) 334-7165
Fred Schwan (419) 732-6683 (419) 732-6683
FredSchwan@Yahoo.com
Richie Self (318) 868-9077
Mel Steinberg & Son (415) 453-9750 (415) 457-4432
melsteinberg@mindspring.com
Scott Winslow Associates (603) 472-7040 (603) 472-8773
scott@scottwinslow.com
George Warner (307) 672-3700
Pam West [44] 0208 641 3224 [44] 0208 641 3224
pamwestbritnotes@compuserve.com
Post/Base Exchange
(PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! Your classified
advertisement for items for sale will be run here for
free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for
everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced
collector. The point is to make the gram more
interesting. Send in a list of items for sale and we
will list them here in the gram. In all cases confirm
your order via email first.
FOR SALE
Your advertisement of material for sale (related to
military money collecting) will be accepted for this
section at no charge as a public service.
FOR SALE: ALLIED MILITARY CURRENCY OF ITALY, Series
1943
M10a Forbes 1 lira F $1 VF $3 XF $6
AU $9
M10b BEP 1 ira VF $3 XF $6 AU $9
CU $15
M11a Forbes 2 lire VF $2 XF $4 AU $6
CU $10
M11b BEP 2 lire VF $2 AU $6 CU $10
M12a Forbes 5 lire VF $2 XF $4 AU $6
M12b BEP 5 lire AU $8
M13a Forbes 10 lire F $10 VF $25 XF $50
AU $75
M13b BEP 10 lire F $10 VF $15
M14a Forbes 50 lire G $3 VG $6 F $10
M14b BEP 50 ire VG $6 F $9 VF $12
M15a Forbes 100 lire VG+ $75
M15b BEP 100 lire VG+ $75 F $100
(Short Snorter)
Please confirm at hoffman@rabbitbrush.com
Fourth edition Comprehensive Catalog of Military
Payment Certificates by Fred Schwan shipping about
March 5. Order yours now.
Standard edition (400 pages!) $50
Collectors’s Edition (432 pages!) $95
Researchers’ Edition (432 page, 46 produced, limited
to availability) $125
All orders plus $4 shipping per order (NOT per book).
Send snail mail payment to BNR Press, 132 E. Second
St., Port Clinton, OH 43452 or PayPay using email
fredschwan@yahoo.com.
MPC for sale:
Series 481 1 Dollar 3rd printing VF 55.00
Series 481 1 Dollar 3rd printing VF-EF 80.00
Series 481 1 Dollar 3rd printing EF 90.00
Series 481 1 Dollar 3rd printing EF-A.UNC 135.00
Series 481 1 Dollar 3rd printing A.UNC 175.00
Series 481 1 Dollar 3rd printing CH. UNC 300.00
Series 481 5 Dollars 1st Pinting VF 155.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 1st printing VF 80.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 1st printing EF 300.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 2nd printing VG-F 30.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 2nd print F tape residue 30.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 2nd printing F-VF 55.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 2nd printing VF 80.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 2nd printing EF 300.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 3rd Printing F-VF 65.00
Series 481 10 Dollars 3rd printing VF 75.00
Please confirm at coinman@rochester.rr.com
WANTED
Collectors may submit lists of items wanted for their
collections for listing here. Dealers and collectors
who have these items are then encouraged to list them
or sale in the above section. This is a trial, if you
like it, send your list.
Collector wants MPC checks from unusual places,
Morocco, Libya, even France.
WANTED Souvenir Card 'MPC Fest I' from the first MPC
Fest.
if you have any of this material for sale, advertise
it in the Gram
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Staff: publisher and editor:
Fred Schwan - MPCGram@Yahoo.com
assistant editor - Phil Goldstein IWANTMYMPC@aol.com
distribution manager - Brad Peacock bp22@swbell.net
Tuesday columnist Joe Boling – JoeBoling@aol.com
Thurski columnist Larry "Ski" Smulczenski –
ski@prodigy.net
critic: Harold Kroll – HARBONS@aol.com
scholarship coordinator – Marcus Turner
maturner@indy.rr.com
fact checker: Warner Talso
index manager: Ed Beaman
webmaster & technical advisor -- Doug Bell - (Wiz):
doug@papermoneyworld.net
The Boss: Judy Schwan
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