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MPC GRAM
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Covering the entire World of Military Numismatics
Series 003 - Number
617 Tuesday - 07 MAY 2002
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__297 days to Fest IV__
FEATURED
ARTICLE
Show Report and an AMC Mark Counterfeit
by Joseph
Boling
This past weekend was the
Pacific Northwest Numismatic Association annual convention in Tukwila, a Seattle
suburb. As an officer of the PNNA, I was heavily involved--much more than I
would normally be at a convention of this type. Because I had to be there all
weekend, I had time on Friday to make the rounds of the dealers, and as
treasurer of the PNNA I also handled (after the fact) all of the cash that came
in at registration. Lets talk about the cash first.
Recall that last year I observed
that all the $20 notes except one were of the new design; I had not realized
that the new design had displaced the old so thoroughly. This year I checked all
the income for Saturday and Sunday (I did not have time to examine the Friday
receipts before depositing them Saturday morning). With a $2/day, $5/weekend
entry fee, we took in lots of dollar bills. All were in the following series in
the indicated quantities: 1995 / 89 pieces; 1999 / 202 pieces; 2001 / 3 pieces.
This works out to the following percentages: 30/69/1. These were the first
examples of the 2001 series that I have seen; they have very distinctive
signatures. I am surprised that there are so many 1995 notes still out. The
dollar bill is supposed to have a circulation life of eighteen months or less--
I would expect the 1995 notes to be much further retired than is evident.
In the $5 notes, we had twelve of
series 1995 (the old design) and nine of series 1999 (57%). In $10 notes, only
one of series 1995 and three of series 1999. A word about $10 notes; I have had
my bank looking for pre-1995 pieces for many weeks. In all that time, the
tellers have found only a single 1993 note. All the others have been 1995 or
later. I am surprised at how completely the 1995 series dominates the old design
pieces (which seem to be running at a higher rate then the 25% in our tiny PNNA
sample). In $20 notes, we took in thirty-one 1996 pieces and sixteen 1999 notes
(34%) - every piece is in the new design. There was a single $50, series 1996.
On the hard currency side, there were ten Sacagawea dollars, one Susie B, and
two Ike dollars! I bought all those to use in my daily shopping (I never carry
dollar notes any more--I carry metallic dollars and $2 bills (when I can get
them) and arrange my tenders so that I get paper change only in $5 and higher
denominations).
Enough of the
civilian side; now for a military piece. On Bill Henderson's latest list, he had
a 100 mark AMC counterfeit. Due to the crush of affairs in the past three weeks,
I had let the list sit on my desk, read but not ordered from. I was sure that he
would have sold the piece by the time I saw him Friday. Not so; not only did he
still have it, but he had brought the list stock to the show. I was able to
acquire the fake and a genuine to go with it. Now for the interesting stuff.
Recall that the Soviet printed AMC marks can be visually separated quickly
(without checking for the Forbes printer's mark) by checking the serial numbers
for a 3+6 configuration--three digits somewhat misaligned with the final six
digits. The three are usually composed of a dash and two numerals, because the
sample notes that the Soviets received with their printing elements were
specimens made from replacements, which Forbes indicated with a leading dash.
The Soviets apparently concluded that all serial numbers were to start with a
dash. Only when their numbering reached -99,999,999 in a denomination (without
the commas) did they convert the dash to a numeral "1" and keep on numbering
(they did not start at zero, so they actually did not produce more than 100
million pieces of any denomination).
The counterfeit that I bought from
Bill does not have the Forbes mark, which would indicate that a Soviet-printed
piece was used as the model (the plate is crude, but there is not even a blob
where the script "f" would be). The serial number, in addition to being ragged
overall, shows a distinct 3+6 form. But, the number is 037821825, an impossible
number for a Soviet production; they never used a leading zero. The plate is not
a photographic reproduction of an original; my conclusion is that the
counterfeiters created a new plate from scratch, omitted the Forbes mark when
they came to it, and had the same problem that the Soviets had with serial
numbering--no nine-wheel machines. They had to set up two machines next to each
other. (An alternative would be to print the 037 as part of the main face plate,
using a six-wheel serial numbering machine next to those initial digits, but
that is not what they did on this note--all digits are letterpress over the
black face plate.)
Does anyone else
have a 100 mark AMC fake? If so, what is the serial number?
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MAIL
CALL
I received a
scholarship application from a docent at the Pueblo Aircraft Museum for the
"Military Numismatics" class. She writes "The Museum owns more than ten thousand
military artifacts (including WW II military script and foreign currency) from
World War II, Korea, Vietnam, and the Cold War as well as from WW I and the Gulf
War."
I have two questions, or
comments: Would your group like to sponsor her for the class? (just tuition as
she lives close) and might this be a great field trip for the class???
Also, what happened to the
Gram? I have not received one in a month.
Gail Baker
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Fred,
Nice way to gloss over the 651 .50 cent
situation. Change the price structure? $250 each? Are you mad?
Do you honestly believe that he only took .50 cent notes? Come on, Phil
had the right idea all along on his website. Are you guys totally blind or
what! Wake up and smell the hoard!
Al Bab
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EDITORIAL
It appears
by Gail's letter above, some people are still suffering from glitches caused by
the electrical spike several weeks ago to the Gram server. Anyone still
receiving multiple grams? no grams? fookey grams? Contact Doug directly at: doug@papermoneyworld.net
So it seems, more people are becoming
suspicious about the 651 fractional notes... Fishy circumstances leave too many
unanswered questions, which no one cares to answer honestly. Class, the word of
the day is: Caution. We know have the following people lined up for articles for
the following Gram / Series
Matches:
641 Philip M.
Goldstein
651 Marv
Mericle
661
681
691 Marcus Turner /
Mr. 691
692 Tom
Koch
701 Marcus Turner / Mr.
691
Did I leave anyone out? Anyone care to author an article?
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CALENDAR OF
EVENTS
2002
ANA
Seminar: 29 June to 5 July
W.W. II numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar, July 2002
Session I (Saturday, 29 June through Friday, 5 July, 2002)
Session II (Sunday, 7 July through Thursday, 11 July, 2002)
general events will return
WESPMEX: 27 - 28 July
Westchester Paper Money
Exposition - 175 Dealers
Westchester County Center, White Plains,
NY
WESPMEX: 11 - 13 October
Westchester Paper Money
Exposition - 100 Dealers
Westchester County Center, White Plains,
NY
WESPMEX: 29 November - 1 December
Westchester
Paper Money Exposition - 160 Dealers
Westchester County Center, White Plains,
NY
2003
CPMX 9: 20 - 23 February,
MPC Fest
IV: 28 Feb - 2 March, Port Clinton, OH
Fest Registrants: Doug Bell, Joe Boling, Guido
Crapanzano, Dick Freyser, Philip M. Goldstein, Gary
Hicks, Harold Kroll,
Jack Lippincot, Kevin Maloy,
Leo May$$, Fred Schwan, David Seelye, Nick
Shrier, Larry Smulczenski, Warner Talso,
Marcus Turner, Tom
Warburton
$$ = Paid
Running total: 17
ANA: 19-22 March, Charlotte, NC
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SCHOLARSHIP
DONATIONS
Reminder: The deadline for scholarship applications is
May 15.
Please get them in soon.
Donations are now
being accepted for scholarships to the 2002 "Military Money" course at the 2002
ANA Summer Seminar. Inquiries and donations should be sent to:
Military
Numismatists
c/o Marcus Turner
8103 East US Highway 36
Suite 163
Avon, IN 46123
maturner@indy.rr.com
Donors to 2002
Scholarship Fund:
Dave
Amey
Gail
Baker
Keith and Sue Bauman Doug
Bell
Bay Bows
Angus
Bruce
Carlson
Chambliss
Ort
Cowles
Guido Crapanzano Mike
Cummings
Howard A. Daniel,
III Sam
Feeback
Steve
Feller
George Fitzgerald Dick
Freyser
Al
Glaser
Philip M.
Goldstein
Wes
Hardy
Rod
Hardy
Gary Hicks
Ed
Hoffman
Tom
Koch
Harold
Kroll
Tim
Kyzivat
Jack Lippincott
Kevin
Maloy
Ian
Marshall
Leo
May
R. A.
Medina
Marv Mericle
Mr.
691
John
Pettit
Bruce
Potter
Gene
Ryan
Unknown Subscriber
Fred
Schwan
David
Seelye
Joel
Shafer
Neil
Shafer
Larry Smulczenski
Warner
Talso
Marcus
Turner
Russ
Walsh
Tom Warburton Mark
Watson
Pam
West
John & Nancy Wilson Bill
Yanchick
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HOT CONTACT LIST - DEALER &
RESOURCE LIST
Below is the BNR
Press Hot Contact List. This list serves several functions. Obviously it is an
outreach by the dealers listed for your business. Most of them buy and sell MPC.
Others organize shows or publish periodicals, or furnish information dedicated
to this field. They have supported the new Comprehensive Catalog of Military
Payment Certificates with their advertising.
They deserve
your support and patronage!
Name
phone
fax
email
Allens
(614)
882-3937 (614) 882-0662
info@allens.com
American Coins &
Collectibles (800)
865-3562
American Numismatic Ass'n
(800)
367-9723
ana@money.org
Guy
Araby
(562) 945-7891 (310)
508-0018
guyaraby@earthlink.net
Bob Baker
(713)
864-3122
Ken Barr
(408)
272-3247
ken@kenbarr.com
Fred Bart
(810)
979-3400
Dick Balbaton
(508)
699-2266 (508) 643-1154
RJBalbaton@aol.com
Keith and Suzanne
Bauman
(248)
262-1514
tnaksbauman@earthlink.net
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(602)
440-0442 (602) 494-9103
BNR Press
(419)
732-6683 (419) 732-6683
fredschwan@yahoo.com
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(800)
789-7070 (763) 789-4747
Ed Carne
(614)
882-3937 (614) 882-0662
info@allens.com
Champion Stamp
(212)
489-8130 (212) 581-8130
Cookie Jar
Collectibles
(301)
604-9225
cjcpi@comcast.net
Guido Crapanzano
[39]
2-8056228 [39] 2-4459856
Currency Dealer
Newsletter
(310)
515-7369
David F. Cieniewicz
(205)
852-7015
CGC
(602)
493-4758 (602) 494-9103
sales@gradedcurrency.com
Mike
Cummings
(863)
603-9899 (863) 603-9880
mpccoin@hotmail.com
Cygnet Charters
(419)
734-2422
Ray Czahor
(301)
604-9225
cjcpi@comcast.net
Doric Coins &
Currency
(508)
699-2266 (508) 643-1154
FUN
(407)
321-8747
Larry
Gibbs
(308)
635-7900
oth@prairieweb.com
Philip M. Goldstein
(845)
254-MPC1 [6721]
iwantmympc@aol.com or MPC Website
Great Lakes Bank Note
Company (419) 732-6683
IBNS
joeboling@aol.com
Essie Kashani
(909)
627-3996 (909) 627-2776
kashani10@aol.com
Lowel Horwdel
(765)
583-2748 (765) 583-4584
horwdel@inshightbb.com
Peter
Huntoon
Smithsonian Research
peter.huntoon@att.net
Lyn Knight
(800)
243-5211
Krause Publications
(715)
445-2214 (715) 445-4087
bnr@krause.com
Harold Kroll
(251)
649-5134
HARBONS@aol.com
Leo May
(305)
271-8391
LeoMayEnt@aol.com or Wide World of
Banknotes
Ian Marshall
(416)
445-0286 (416) 445-0286
iam@total.net
Memphis Coin Club
(901)
757-2515
MPCGram
(419)
732-6683
MPCGram@yahoo.com
Bob Reed
(504)
361-5684
bobreed@rrcoins.net
Fred Schwan
(419)
732-6683 (419) 732-6683
FredSchwan@yahoo.com
David Seelye
(585)
594-1987 (585) 594-2311
coinman@rochester.rr.com
Richie Self
(318)
868-9077
R. M. Smythe
(800)
622-1880 (212) 908-4047
www.smytheonline.com
Mel Steinberg &
Son
(415)
453-9750 (415) 457-4432
melsteinberg@mindspring.com
Military Trader
(800)
334-7165
Scott Winslow Associates
(603)
472-7040 (603) 472-8773
scott@scottwinslow.com
George Warner
(307)
672-3700
Pam West
[44]
0208 641 3224 [44] 0208 641 3224 pamwestbritnotes@compuserve.com
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POST / BASE
EXCHANGE (PX/BX/NEX)
Dump your dupes!
Your classified advertisement for items for sale, purchase or trade will be run
here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most
humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more
interesting. In all cases confirm your order via email first.
FOR SALE SECTION:
For Sale ads will run for a period of up to 5 days, or until
sold.
Series
461 5
Cents
F
5.00
Series 461 5
Cents
F/VF
6.00
Series 461 5
Cents
VF
7.50
Series 461 5
Cents
A.EF
12.50
Series 461 5
Cents
EF
stain
11.50
Series 461 5
Cents
EF
19.00
Series 461 5
Cents
AU
45.00
Series 461 5
Cents
UNC
63.00
Series 461 5
Cents
GEM
UNC
90.00
Series 461 10
Cents
F/VF
6.00
Series 461 10
Cents
VF
7.50
Series 461 10
Cents
EF
18.00
Series 461 10
Cents
AU
40.00
Series 461 10
Cents
Gem
UNC
95.00
Series 461 25
Cents
EF
40.00
Series 461 25
Cents
EF/AU
49.50
Series 461 25
Cents
AU
75.00
Series 461 25
Cents
AU/UNC
110.00
Series 461 25
Cents
UNC bent corner 100.00
Series
461 25
Cents
Choice
UNC
175.00
Series 461 50
Cents
VF
18.75
Series 461 50
Cents
VF+
37.50
Series 461 50
Cents
EF
pinhole
55.00
Series 461 50
Cents
EF
80.00
Series 461 50
Cents
EF/AU
100.00
Series 461 50
Cents
About UNC-UNC 130.00
Series 461 50
Cents
CHOICE UNC
195.00
Series 461 1
Dollar
VF
10.00
Series 461 1
Dollar
EF
18.50
Series 461 1
Dollar
UNC bent corner 100.00
Series
461 1
Dollar
CH
UNC
175.00
Series 461 1
Dollar
GEM
UNC
225.00
Series 461 10
Dollars
VG
15.00
Series 461 10
Dollars
VF
45.00
Series 461 10
Dollars
EF
75.00
Series 461 10
Dollars
EF/AU
150.00
Series 461 10
Dollars
AU
175.00
Series 461 10
Dollars
CH
UNC
300.00
contact David Seelye at coinman@rochester.rr.com
(05May)
Sixty (60) Vietnam
transitional notes from the same pack. The front shows "Republic of
Socialist Vietnam," the denomination (2 dong's), and the communist emblem of the
country. The back shows the "Ham Rong" bridge and pagoda, boat, number 2, and
"National Bank of Vietnam".Those notes are from the time era when the country
was ruled by a military totalitarian regime.
All for $37, including
shipping.
Contact: ttnguyen@oppd.com
(05May)
Comprehensive
Catalog of Military Payment Certificates - 4th Edition
by Fred Schwan
Standard Edition (400
pages!)
$ 50
Collectors’s Edition (432 pages!)
$ 95
Researcher's Edition (432 page, 46 produced, limited to
availability) $125
All orders plus $4 shipping per
order (NOT per book). Send snail mail payment to:
BNR Press
132 E. Second Street
Port Clinton,
OH 43452
or PayPal using
email:
fredschwan@yahoo.com
WANTED
SECTION:
Collectors may
submit lists of items wanted for their collections for listing here. Dealers and
collectors who have these items are then encouraged to list them for sale in the
above section as a reply. This is a trial, if you like it, send your list.
WANTED Souvenir Card 'MPC Fest I' from the first MPC
Fest. (4/18)
Collector wants All USAFFE and AUSA Free Samar
notes All 125th Infantry Regiment and Markings Guerrilla notes. I am also
interested in any and all Guerilla Municipal issues. (4/18)
WANTED TO
BUY: Bulk quantities of Afghanistan propaganda leaflets or related.
(4/18)
Looking for a Series 641 MPC, any denomination with the serial
number J02283151J. (4/18)
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MPC CATALOG CORRECTIONS & ENHANCEMENTS
Page 18, Bottom - Users of Military Payment
Certificates
Check marks were omitted from production copies of books.
Please check off the following:
Australia:
641, 661, 681, 692
Canada:
461 through
and including 591
Korea:
641,
661, 681, 692
New Zealand: 641, 661, 681, 692
Thailand:
641, 661, 681, 692
United States: All
(date listed: 02
APRIL 2002)
Page 201,
Bottom Right - Very last sentence on this page
Two serial numbers listed for
the second printing of
Series 472 .50 cent notes. The first serial
number listed is obviously in error as a nine digit number: C040351392C
Correct Serial Number is: C04035139C
D Freyser (date listed 10 April 2002)
Page 207, #833/4 - Series 481 .25 4th
Printing (table listing serial number breakdowns) line 5
Start
Number is incorrect. It appears as:
(start) D14784001D (end)
D14784000D
Correct start number should be: D09408001D
PK6 (date listed: 03 APRIL 2002)
Page 214, #855/r2 - Series 541 $1 Replacements,
Ending serial number is incorrect
Correct number is F1112000
(date listed: 02 APRIL 2002)
Page 220, #884/2r - Series 641 .50
Replacements
On page 284, it is broken down into 2 printings. That's
correct, BUT, on page 220 he lists only (1) printing reported. It should "list"
both first and second printings.
Guy Araby (date listed 04 APRIL 2002)
Page 287, Series 661 Series Summary, 25 cent note: the
"list" shows "#CU as 10(7) . It should read, 8(7). As only 8 are known in CU.
Just recount P.289.
Guy Araby (date listed 08 APRIL 2002)
Page 398, Series #541 $10 on "UNC." price is
$2500, on P.214 the UNC. price is $3500. Also the rest of the prices don't match
all the way to "VG" on this issue. They should be the same price.
Guy Araby (date listed 08 APRIL 2002)
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