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MPC GRAM
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Covering the entire World of Military Numismatics
Series 003 -
Number 625 Saturday - 19 MAY 2002
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__285 days to Fest IV__
FEATURED ARTICLE
Cherry
Picking?
by Unknown Subscriber
My experience: Over a year ago, I was in a coin and gold/silver buy shop and
after buying a bit of sterling silverware, I asked about MPC. They had the
usual assortment in the case priced for too much money and I asked about
anything else. When the box of unsorted was brought out, I looked through
and found nothing unusual. Then I looked again and about fell over.
Of course, I immediately pointed out to the owner that I wanted only the Series
472 .25 cent replacement note and how much did he want for this very rare
quarter in XF!!!!
No such way!!!
NFW!!! I went through the lot again looking for anything else that may
have been unusual and finally picked out about 15 decoys of the 20 or so notes
fine or less notes (mostly Viet nam era as I am a vet), and asked for a
price. He said price it myself. Of course, I said
thousands!!!!!!
Nah, I just hit him with $23!!!! Well, I got it and
could not believe my good luck. And this is a store that does eBay!!!!
Of course, he had paid nichts for
the lot which then came to me for the big bucks!!!! Knowledge is
$$$$$$$!!!! I could have lost the lot by spending too much time with
the lot. There is a balance between too little and too much time and
interest that has to be struck and that varies with each owner. You need
to be smart, calculating, intelligent, knowledgeable, poker faced, interested,
restrained, friendly like a snake, sometimes dumb, but above all
~~~LUCKY!!! Herb Cohen's book would help. You Can Negotiate
Anything.
I had used a good
technique which I had then forgotten about in March of this year with a National
Bank Note Intercourse, PA $5 bank note that I lost the buy on. You spook
people with a high offer. Just grab it and go. Take the trash
also!!! The Intercourse note was stuck in a vault in a jewelry store which
the son had inherited. He had no idea of the value. However,once
they think it is worth something, no cherry picking!!!
Maybe I will get
it later on.
Next time: The story of the Atlanta GA Stooopid Major
Gen's widow who "dumped" her husbands foot locker for "get it off" my hands
$250!!!!!
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BOOK REVIEW
by Jim Downey
A
few weeks ago in the Gram there was a mention of a new book regarding WWII
prisoner of war camps in Wisconsin called Stalag Wisconsin. I believe it
was just a notice that the book was published. I have read it and attached
is my review of it.
TITLE:
STALAG WISCONSIN - Inside WWII prisoner-of-war
camps
AUTHOR:
Betty
Cowley
PUBLISHER:
Badger Books, P.O. Box 192, Oregon, WI
53575
PRICE:
$16.95
Stalag Wisconsin is a
narrative history of the prisoner-of-war (PW1)
camps that were located in Wisconsin during WWII. The book is
broken into two parts: (1) a brief overview of the PW camp system, and (2) short
histories and narratives from the one base camp (Camp McCoy) and the 38
satellite Wisconsin PW camps.
It is
not an in-depth history of the camps, but a general survey. The author’s
research revealed that the records of the branch camps were destroyed in the
1950s. Most of the information found in the book was gathered from newspaper
articles and personal interviews with prisoners, guards and members of the local
communities and their families. The stories depict life in the camps as well as
the community reaction to and interaction with their unexpected -- and sometimes
unwelcome – neighbors. The accounts are typical of those that are well known
about the PW camps in the United States including informal and lax security,
visits with American relatives, bungled escapes that end in taverns, etc. It is
an easy and entertaining read. I tackled its 270 pages in a single weekend.
It seems that there is a paucity of
information regarding PW camps in the US during WWII. In my limited travels, I
have encountered only one other book on PW camps in the United States. That was
a history of the camp at Ft. Gordon, GA that was written by the post historian
in the 1970s, which I found at the post library and consists of an edition of 1.
It is likely that other installations have similar histories and it may be
worthwhile to scour the military libraries or correspond with the command
historians to locate these resources. Despite its limited scope, Stalag
Wisconsin fills a definite need in preserving the history of one of the
lesser-known aspects of the war. I highly recommend it. The following are a few
highlights of the book and its numismatic references.
Camp McCoy was the only base PW
camp in Wisconsin. It housed all of the Japanese, Korean and other Asian PWs
held by the US for the duration of the war as well as up to 5,000 Germans. The
other 38 camps were satellite camps that temporarily housed German PWs from Fort
Sheridan, IL who were shipped to Wisconsin to provide agricultural labor during
the harvest and canning seasons. These satellite camps housed approximately
13,000 prisoners between 1944 and 1946.
The US government received $.50 per
hour for the labor of each PW hired out. It cost the government $.35 per day to
house each PW. One of the few primary documents cited by the author is an
accounting of the amounts paid to the treasury for the PW labor from each camp
as of September 1945. The farmers and canneries paid over $1,000,000.00 for PW
labor from the Wisconsin camps alone! This was quite a windfall for the
treasury.
PWs received $.80 per day
for their labor and an additional $.10 per day for personal needs. They were
paid in canteen coupons and were able to bank their wages. When PWs were
repatriated they were paid the balance of their accounts in treasury checks
which could be cashed by US personnel in their home country. (WWII
Remembered shows an example of these checks on page 396).
Canteen coupons are mentioned a
couple of times in Stalag Wiconsin and there is one cartoon drawn by a PW
that depicts them. The cartoon shows a PW with a disgusted look on his face
holding a container of milk in one hand and an open coupon book in the other
that has only two coupons remaining. The English translation of the caption
reads: “I don’t need a million . . . I only need five cents for milk.” There is
enough detail in the drawing to identify that the coupons are consistent with
those used in PW camps.
Of
the Wisconsin camps, WWII Remembered only identifies Camp McCoy and Camp
Billy Mitchell in Milwaukee as having issued their own coupons. As previously
identified, Camp McCoy was a base camp that existed throughout the war. Camp
Billy Mitchell was the largest of the Ft. Sheridan satellite camps in Wisconsin
and remained from January 1945 until April 1946. Because of the size and
permanent nature of these camps it is likely that they were the only camps to
issue their own coupons. While all of the satellite camps had canteens, most of
them housed only a few hundred PWs and were only active for the few short months
of the harvest and canning seasons each year. It is probable that the satellite
camps used coupons for Ft. Sheridan.
I acquired a few sheets of maverick
canteen coupons a few months ago. They blank coupon checks with “P.O.W. Canteen”
stamped on them without a location. I got them from the daughter of a gentleman
who was an MP at the PW camp at Ft. Sheridan. I had assumed they were printed as
a quick substitute for the Ft. Sheridan coupons but I imagine it is equally
possible that they were printed for use in the satellite camps. (All of this is
conjecture, of course, as it is also possible that these coupons are modern
fabrications as this sort of overprint would be easy to duplicate. I trust my
source, however, as she was a client of mine from Illinois who related to me the
stories he told her about his time at Ft. Sheridan.)
1: PW is the current
abbreviation used by the United States Army for prisoner-of-war. Under the
heading of PW there are two subheadings: EPW (enemy prisoner-of-war) and APW
(allied prisoner-of-war). In the modern United States Army lexicon a POW is a
personally-owned-weapon.
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MAIL CALL
Editor:
Though not
much material, I did get to GRAMS 623, one dated 5/15/2002 at 10:48 p. m. and
the other dated 10/16 in the a.m., the one I'm responding
to.
Don't get discouraged. We
appreciate what your doing. I may offer something, but I'm afraid is in
the offing.
Bill Murray
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Dear Editor,
Joe Boling pointed out correctly that
S/B mentions the use of BAFSV by British Forces in Japan, which I did know
about. What I was trying to determine in response to Fred's question was - what
did the UN countries, other than US and Britain use during the Korean War? What
appears to be the case is that all Commonwealth countries, except Canada, used
BAFSV, and all others were authorized to use MPC. I find no mention of that fact
in S/B.
David Klinger
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Greetings,
I have two complete unissued booklets of chits
printed in a vertical format two wide by nine deep. The outer deep red cover is
printed in this style three times so there are three intact booklets with a
value of 1 pound each:
Serial
No......................
Officers'
Mess
:: 9 Warwick
£1
If found, please
return to:
...............................................................
Inside are full pages of 18 chits for 1/, 6d, 6d, 3d,
3d, 2d, 2d, 2d, 1d, 1d,1d, 1/2d and 1/2d printed in various colors for each
value with "OFFICERS" MESS" above and "9 WARWICK" below the value.
These
came with a mixed lot of military items from a Dublin auction recently. Anybody
have any idea as to what war and whomever issued them and for where?
Cheers,
Colin R. Bruce II
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EDITORIAL
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CALENDAR OF EVENTS
2002
ANA Seminar: 29 June to 5 July
W.W. II
numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar, July 2002
Session I (Saturday, 29 June through Friday, 5 July, 2002)
Session II (Sunday, 7 July through Thursday, 11 July, 2002)
general events will return
WESPMEX: 27 - 28 July
Westchester Paper Money
Exposition - 175 Dealers
Westchester County Center, White Plains,
NY
WESPMEX: 11 - 13 October
Westchester Paper Money
Exposition - 100 Dealers
Westchester County Center, White Plains,
NY
WESPMEX: 29 November - 1 December
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2003
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Crapanzano, Dick Freyser, Philip M. Goldstein, Gary
Hicks, Harold Kroll,
Jack Lippincot, Kevin Maloy,
Leo May$$, Fred Schwan, David Seelye, Nick
Shrier, Larry Smulczenski, Warner Talso,
Marcus Turner, Tom
Warburton
$$ = Paid
Running total: 17
ANA: 19-22 March, Charlotte, NC
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Dump your dupes!
Your classified advertisement for items for sale, purchase or trade will be run
here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most
humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more
interesting. In all cases confirm your order via email first.
FOR SALE SECTION:
For Sale ads will run for a period of up to 5 issues, or until
sold.
Series 471 5
Cents
VG
5.00
Series 471 5
Cents
VF
15.00
Series 471 5
Cents
VF+
20.00
Series 471 5
Cents
EF - small
stain
20.00
Series 471 5
Cents
UNC - slight tear
52.50
Series 471 5
Cents
UNC
90.00
Series 471 5
Cents
Gem
UNC
105.00
Series 471 10
Cents
VG
3.50
Series 471 10
Cents
F
6.00
Series 471 10
Cents
F/VF
9.00
Series 471 10
Cents
VF
12.00
Series 471 10
Cents
EF
30.00
Series 471 10
Cents
UNC
90.00
Series 471 10
Cents
Gem
UNC
110.00
Series 471 25
Cents
VF
stain
15.00
Series 471 25
Cents
VF
27.50
Series 471 25
Cents
Gem
UNC
325.00
Series 471 50
Cents
F/VF
25.00
Series 471 50
Cents
AU
165.00
Series 471 50
Cents
Gem
UNC
400.00
Series 471 50
Cents
CH. UNC off cut
500.00
contact David
Seelye at coinman@rochester.rr.com
(621)
ALLIED MILITARY CURRENCY - GERMANY, Series
1944
Serial number
prefix: 0, 00,1 or dash (-)
P-191a 1/2
Mark 9 digit with F, prefix 0 or
00
VF $3 XF $6
AU$8
P-192a 1 Mark, 9 digit with F,
prefix 0, 00, or
1
F $1 VF
$2 XF$4 AU
$5 CU $6
P-192d 1
Mark, 8 digit with dash, no F, prefix
dash F
$1 VF $3
XF $5
P-193a 5 Mark, 9 digit with
F, prefix 0 or
00
F $1 VF
$2 XF $4 AU
$5 CU $6
P-193b 5
Mark, 9 digit no F, prefix
1
CU $10
P-193d 5 Mark, 8 digit with
dash, no F, prefix dash F
$3 VF $5
P-194a
10 Mark, 9 digit with F, prefix
0
VG $4 F
$7 VF $15
XF$22 AU $30 CU
$40
P-194a 10 Mark, 9 digit with F,
prefix
00
VG $6 F $10 VF
$20 XF $30 AU
$40
P-194b 10 Mark, 9 digit no F, prefix
1
CU $20
P-194d 10 Mark, 8 digit with dash,
prefix
dash
F $7 VF
$10
P-195a 20 Mark, 9 digit with F,
prefix
0
VG $3 F
$6 VF $9
XF $20
P-195b 20 Mark, 9 digit no F,
prefix
1
F $5 VF $12 XF
$20
P-195d 20 Mark, 8 digit no F, prefix
dash
F $3 VF
$6 XF $10 AU $15 CU
$20
P-196a 50 Mark, 9 digit with F,
prefix
0
F $3
P-196d 50 Mark, 8 digit no F, prefix
dash
VG $2 F
$3 VF $5
XF $10 AU $20
P-197a 100 Mark, 9
digit with F, prefix
0
F $10 VF $15 XF
$20
P-197b 100 Mark, 9 digit no F, prefix
1
VF $10 XF $17
P-197d 100 Mark, 8
digit no F, prefix
dash
VG $ F
$6 VF $8
XF $12
P-198b 1000 Mark, 8 digit no F, prefix
dash
AU $75 CU $95
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Collectors may
submit lists of items wanted for their collections for listing here.
Dealers
and collectors who have these items, are then encouraged to list them for sale
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Wanted listings will run for a period of 1
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WANTED - Fancy Series 641 fractional notes - any condition.
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MPC CATALOG
CORRECTIONS & ENHANCEMENTS
Page 18, Bottom - Users of Military Payment
Certificates
Check marks were omitted from production copies of books.
Please check off the following:
Australia:
641, 661, 681, 692
Canada:
461 through
and including 591
Korea:
641,
661, 681, 692
New Zealand: 641, 661, 681, 692
Thailand:
641, 661, 681, 692
United States: All
(date listed: 02 APRIL 2002)
Page 201, Bottom Right - Very last sentence on this page
Two serial numbers listed for the second printing of
Series 472 .50 cent
notes. The first serial number listed is obviously in error as a nine
digit number: C040351392C
Correct Serial Number is:
C04035139C
D Freyser (date
listed 10 April 2002)
Page 207,
#833/4 - Series 481 .25 4th Printing (table listing serial number
breakdowns) line 5
Start Number is incorrect. It appears as:
(start)
D14784001D (end) D14784000D
Correct start number should
be: D09408001D
PK6 (date listed: 03
APRIL 2002)
Page
214, #855/r2 - Series 541 $1 Replacements,
Ending serial number is
incorrect
Correct number is F1112000
(date listed: 02 APRIL 2002)
Page 220, #884/2r - Series 641 .50
Replacements
On page 284, it is broken down into 2 printings. That's
correct, BUT, on page 220 he lists only (1) printing reported. It should "list"
both first and second printings.
Guy Araby (date listed 04 APRIL 2002)
Page 287, Series 661 Series Summary, 25 cent note: the
"list" shows "#CU as 10(7) . It should read, 8(7). As only 8 are known in CU.
Just recount P.289.
Guy Araby (date listed 08 APRIL 2002)
Page 398, Series #541 $10 on "UNC." price is
$2500, on P.214 the UNC. price is $3500. Also the rest of the prices don't match
all the way to "VG" on this issue. They should be the same
price.
Guy Araby (date
listed 08 APRIL 2002)
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