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Covering the entire World of Military Numismatics
Series 003 -
Number 636 Friday - 31 MAY 2002
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__273 days to Fest IV__
FEATURED ARTICLE
Oral History Interview with BERNARD BERNSTEIN- Part VII
July 23, 1975
by Richard D. McKinzie
submitted by Fred Schwan
[comments in brackets]
Very
quickly we turned our principal attention to the German problems. General
Eisenhower's SHAEF headquarters was established in Versailles and the military
government division called G-5 occupied the reconverted grand stables of the
Versailles Palace. We had begun our German planning when we were in England. In
August, 1944 Secretary Morgenthau had come over to England. He came on a number
of occasions into the war theatre for the President, not just as the Secretary
of the Treasury but also as the President's representative. The President
couldn't move about easily and Morgenthau's visits were one of the means whereby
the President kept abreast of developments.
I was designated by Generals
Eisenhower and Smith to go with General Holmes on General Eisenhower's train to
Scotland to meet Secretary Morgenthau and his party. You can imagine what a
comfortable trip that was. I had a chance to talk with the Secretary. I had
breakfast alone with him that first morning on the train. We discussed the
German planning that was going on at the time. Then later that day Secretary
Morgenthau had lunch with General Eisenhower at General Eisenhower's
headquarters. The Secretary had considerable discussion of what should be the
German program with General Eisenhower.
Thereafter, Secretary Morgenthau,
during the balance of his stay in England, discussed extensively with American
and British officials what should be the Allied military government program for
Germany. During those talks the matter of the SHAEF military government handbook
came up for discussion. From the time of his trip to England, Secretary
Morgenthau became deeply involved in the German program. He developed what was
called the Morgenthau plan. The Morgenthau plan became a subject of great, great
controversy.
MCKINZIE: Well, perhaps you would be good enough to talk a
little bit about your relationship with Secretary Stimson at an earlier period
here and then we'll come back to this.
BERNSTEIN: All right. There was
one case that I worked on that had many interesting aspects. At the time of the
civil war in Spain our government recognized the Republican Government in Spain
as the legitimate government. The President and the Secretary of the Treasury
decided to purchase some silver from the Republican Government of Spain and from
the Bank of Spain that was acting as agent for and under the authority of the
Republican Government of Spain.
As
Assistant General Counsel I drafted the silver purchase agreements. We also
learned that John Foster Dulles, a partner of Sullivan and Cromwell, was acting
for the Franco side of the Bank of Spain and he was going to lead a legal fight
against the Treasury's purchase of the silver. The first purchase of silver from
Spain was bought by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York acting as the agent for
the Treasury and the remaining purchases of silver were made by the U.S.
Treasury directly from the Republican Government of Spain. Secretary Morgenthau
discussed with the President the idea of retaining special counsel for the
Federal Reserve Bank to represent it and the Government in connection with the
lawsuit resulting from the purchases of the silver from Spain.
The man they decided to select to
be the special counsel was Colonel Henry L. Stimson. Col. Stimson was deeply
engaged in another massive litigation, relating I think to the Standard Oil
Company of Indiana, and he was reluctant to take on the Spanish silver case. He
was finally persuaded to do so. He and several of the partners and associates
worked on the case. I had the privilege of working with them. A decision
favorable to the Government was won both in the Federal District Court and in
the Circuit Court of Appeals. I recall that after the argument in the District
Court I was a little concerned as to the impact of Dulles' argument on the
judge. As I was leaving the Courthouse in the company of Colonel Stimson and
Allen Klotz, his partner, I mentioned my concern as to the impact of Dulles'
argument, and suggested we might consider the filing of a further memorandum or
brief in the case. Colonel Stimson looked at me and said in probably the
strongest language he had used in a long time, "Why, we'll go back to my office
and we'll roll up our sleeves and I'll go after that stinkadora."
As I say, the Government won the
case in the Federal courts. The decisions in effect upheld the power of the
Chief Executive to decide what Government legally represented a foreign country
in any particular time. The decisions held that the acts of such legally
recognized Government would not be questioned in an American court. There was
one aspect after the conclusion of the case that left me a little troubled.
Colonel Stimson had submitted a bill for $50,000 for the services of himself and
his partners and associates covering work over a two year period. When the bill
was presented by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to the Stabilization Fund
at the Treasury, the director of which fund was Merle Cochran, Cochran thought
that the bill was very high. Merle Cochran is not a lawyer. All his mature life
he had been in Government Foreign Service until he came to the Treasury.
Probably he was just accustomed to the modest pay of Government officials and
not to attorney’s fees.
He impressed Secretary Morgenthau about
the size of the fee. I found to my considerable surprise, at a conference in the
Secretary's office, that the Secretary was opposed to paying such a fee. I
pointed out that of all the people in the room, I was the only one who had been
a lawyer with Wall Street experience. I then set forth in some detail the
services that had been rendered by Colonel Stimson and his office in this case,
the volume of work, the high quality of the work and the importance of the work.
I stated that I felt confident that by all fair standards, Colonel Stimson's fee
was reasonable and that his fee should be paid promptly. I still didn't seem to
convince the Secretary. So I finally said, "Mr. Secretary, I think your honor is
involved in this matter, and the honor of the President of the United States is
involved. The fee should be paid and either you or the President ought to write
Colonel Stimson a letter of appreciation." Secretary Morgenthau turned to
Cochran and said, "Pay the fee." It wasn't long thereafter that President
Roosevelt invited Colonel Henry Stimson to become a member of his Cabinet, as
Secretary of War. Colonel Stimson was a tower of strength in his administration
during World War II. I think on the fee matter I had rendered a public
service.
MCKINZIE: There was a dramatic incident during the course
of the movement, the physical movement of the silver from Spain to New York. I
wonder if you would be good enough to relate the circumstances of that?
BERNSTEIN: Well, one shipment of silver came in around the 4th of July
weekend. We had been told that Dulles had obtained an attachment order, which
was going to be served by the Sheriff of New York in an effort to prevent the
Treasury from getting the silver. A good part of Saturday evening I spent on the
telephone talking to Colonel Stimson about the matter and considering what steps
we should take to forestall Dulles' legal proceeding and to obtain the silver
for the Treasury. At the end of the discussions I told Colonel Stimson I was
taking the night train to New York and would appreciate his having an assistant
of his meet me at the dock. believe the ship that brought the silver was at the
dock of the U.S. Lines. When we got to the dock, we saw the stacks of silver. We
had had wooden horses placed all around the silver, saying that this was the
property of the U.S.Government. There were also on the dock many deputy sheriffs
from the New York Sheriff's office. I carried on discussions with some officials
of the U.S. Lines. I noticed that every time I would make a point one of the
officials would leave the room and walk down the hall and come back in about
five or more minutes and present me with a counter argument. I said, "Who is
that you're talking to down the hall, a lawyer for your company?" And he
said, "Yes." And I said, "Well, ask the lawyer to come down here. I'd like
to talk to him face-to-face." The lawyer came in and just shortly after he
arrived I again made the demand that we be allowed to take the silver off the
piers on our trucks. The entrance of the pier was blocked by a huge steel door
that was down to the floor. I asked the lawyer to have the steel door lifted so
our trucks could move the silver.
The lawyer suggested to me that it would be all right as far as the U.S. Lines
were concerned if I broke down that steel door. I had a quick thought of what
that would look like in the next day's newspaper, and I told them we were going
to do no such thing. "You're going to lift that door because otherwise you're
interfering with the movement of Government
property."
Apparently the argument
worked, the steel door was lifted, the silver was moved to the Assay Office, and
the next part of the case took place in the courtroom.
If the person wanting Philippine Guerrilla Notes will contact
me, I would be
happy to forward my list of same, PEG-2a., if they have
not been in contact
with me this year. Many thanks,
Ed Hoffman
Dear Editor,
The information that Jim Downy found about
the use of AMC and MPC in treaties/SOFAs is wonderful. Of course as many
questions are raised as answered, but it is nonetheless great stuff. I
particularly liked the language of the SOFA when referring to "generic" army
issues: military payment scrip. This would include MPC and BAFSV. In Europe it
would then include other issues as well. I liked it alot!
Fred
Ok, it looks like we got it made for the Gram / Series
Articles:
641 Philip M. Goldstein
651 Marv Mericle
661 Harold
Kroll
681 Mark
Watson
691 Mr.
691
692 Tom
Koch
701 Marcus Turner
If anyone
cannot fulfil their commitment, please let me know.
Phil
2002
W.W. II
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FOR SALE:
ALLIED MILITARY AUTHORITY CURRENCY FOR AUSTRIA. 1944
ISSUE
P-102b 50
Groschen XF
$1 AU
$2 CU
$3
P-103a 1
Schilling
F $2 VF
$3
P-103b 1
Schilling
F $1 VF
$2 XF
$3
P-104b 2
Schillings
XF $3 AU
$4
P-105 5
Schillings
VF $3 XF
$4 AU
$5
P-106a 10
Schillings
(no fractional line in prefix
number) F $3
VF$4 XF
$5 AU
$6
P-106b 10
Schillings
(with fractional line in prefix
number) VF+ $5
P-107
20 Schillings F
$3 AU
$8
P-109 50
Schillings VF
$8 XF
$10 AU
$12
P-110a 100
Schillings (no fractional line in prefix number) F $6
VF$8 AU
$12
P-110b 100
Schillings (with fractional line in prefix number) F $6 VF
$8
RUSSIAN OCCUPATION - WWII - 1945
issue
P-113b 1
Reichsmark VF
$10 AU $20
ALLIED ISSUE FOR BELGIUM - GOVERNMENT
IN EXILE - ISSUE
1-2-43
P-121 5
Francs
F $3 VF
$4 XF
$5 AU
$6
P-122 10
Francs
F $3 VF
$4 XF
$5 AU
$6
P-123 100
Francs F
$10 VF
$15 XF
$20
P-124 500
Francs F
$50 VF $75
MILITARY ISSUE OF
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$25
P-M4 10 Francs
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Collectors may
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Dealers
and collectors who have these items, are then encouraged to list them for sale
in the above section as a reply.
Wanted listings will run for a period of 1
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WANTED - Philippine Guerrila Money (5/26)
Page 18, Bottom - Users of Military Payment
Certificates
Check marks were omitted from production copies of books.
Please check off the following:
Australia:
641, 661, 681, 692
Canada:
461 through
and including 591
Korea:
641,
661, 681, 692
New Zealand: 641, 661, 681, 692
Thailand:
641, 661, 681, 692
United States: All
Page 201, Bottom Right - Very last sentence on this page
Two serial numbers listed for the second printing of
Series 472 .50 cent
notes. The first serial number listed is obviously in error as a nine
digit number: C040351392C
Correct Serial Number is:
C04035139C
D Freyser (date
listed 10 April 2002)
Page 207,
#833/4 - Series 481 .25 4th Printing (table listing serial number
breakdowns) line 5
Start Number is incorrect. It appears as:
(start)
D14784001D (end) D14784000D
Correct start number should
be: D09408001D
PK6 (date listed: 03
APRIL 2002)
Page
214, #855/r2 - Series 541 $1 Replacements,
Ending serial number is
incorrect
Correct number is F1112000
(date listed: 02 APRIL 2002)
Page 220, #884/2r - Series 641 .50
Replacements
On page 284, it is broken down into 2 printings. That's
correct, BUT, on page 220 he lists only (1) printing reported. It should "list"
both first and second printings.
Guy Araby (date listed 04 APRIL 2002)
Page 287, Series 661 Series Summary, 25 cent note: the
"list" shows "#CU as 10(7) . It should read, 8(7). As only 8 are known in CU.
Just recount P.289.
Guy Araby (date listed 08 APRIL 2002)
Page 398, Series #541 $10 on "UNC." price is
$2500, on P.214 the UNC. price is $3500. Also the rest of the prices don't match
all the way to "VG" on this issue. They should be the same
price.
Guy Araby (date
listed 08 APRIL 2002)
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