From: "MPCgram" To: Subject: MPCGram 821 Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:54 AM =========================================== MPC GRAM =========================================== Covering the entire World of Military Numismatics Series 004 - Number 821 Tuesday January 7, 2003 AM Lire Stage Money By Joe Boling At the 2002 summer seminar, someone (must have been Fred) showed a piece of AMC lire movie or stage money--a note printed for dramatic use, unrelated to the occupation of Italy. It was in an improbable denomination of 25 lire--one we know was never used in either actual AMC lire series. I don't remember whether he had other denominations with it, but I was in love with the 25 lire piece. Imagine my delight when the most recent IBNS auction had a lot described as "Lot of 6 pieces, movie prop money, facsimiles of Italy Pick #s M10b M12b, M13b, M14b, M15b, & one 25 lire 1943, not listed." I knew instantly that the last piece was the one that I had seen last summer. The estimate was $10. I submitted a bid of $76, and won the lot for $17.07. The notes are in an envelope with a computer-generated label reading "MOVIE MONEY/Authentic Motion Picture Prop/from L.A. Propmaster." The note faces are reasonably good copies of the originals, except that the face underprint on the small notes does not contain any scenery, but is simply a brown screen of dots. The backs of the small notes have a different border than the originals, and the words ALLIED MILITARY CURRENCY in the center are almost invisible and on a different panel than on the originals. The IBNS auction catalog description was incorrect, in that the 50 and 100 lire notes are series 1943A, and thus P-M20 and M21 (as it happens, M20b and M21b). The face frame and central device of the two high denomination notes are good replicas (the Forbes F is visible in the frame), but the rosettes in the underprint at right and left are missing; the backs are again of incorrect design and appear washed out. The serial numbers are excellent copies of the original font. All four of the small notes have SN A05247104A and both large notes are A26611556B. More interesting is that the colors are not all correct. The 1, 5, 10, and 50 lire notes are close to the original colors, but the 100 lire is also blue (not purple). The 25 lire note, which does not exist in the original series, is purple (a bit brighter than the 2 lire note, which is not represented). The small notes are printed on calendared paper (a watermark of vertical straight lines 12-13mm apart and close fine parallel horizontal lines), with a manufacturer's watermark of fancy script that appears to be "Fox River" to the left of a coat or arms (right side not present). The large notes are printed on dense dull white paper without watermark. The 100 lire note center numerals are much larger than on the original, and the word "ONE" is omitted in front of "HUNDRED" both in the center and at upper left, but the font of the words is exactly copied from the originals (why the numerals were changed is anybody's guess). All in all, an interesting study in copying and not copying the original notes, starting with the invention of an otherwise non-existent denomination (I wonder of the 2 lire was left out because of the stigma attached to $2 notes in popular lore). UPDATE: Larry Lee at the ANA museum reports that the case in the WWII exhibit containing the ration books was opened, and he checked the ration book #1. He found it to be "a single sheet folded in quarters. There are 26 perforated stamps on the inside." Thus, although it appeared to be like books 2-3-4 from outside the case, it in fact is what all other reported #1 books are like. =========================================== Editorial =========================================== Thank you for the many kind words that many of you sent concerning the epidemic here in PC. I am feeling much better and Judy is giving lots of directions so she is getting back to normal. Thanks again. After I wrote yesterday’s piece, I got to thinking about my shoot out with the ruler toting nun. I have always wondered if nuns are issued holsters for their rulers. When used with nun uniforms (habits), this constitutes carry a concealed weapon. Nonetheless she won. I almost look forward to the next hospitalization so that I can try another approach (late night). There are not end to the benefits that come from Fest attendance! The stage money described by Joe was distributed at Fest I. Every Fester received a set from Doug Bell. He also has a long (and good) story about obtaining them and distributing them. I hope that this will stimulate him to tell it! Fred =========================================== Mail Call =========================================== Dear Gram, Just wanted to send a note wishing your wife a speedy recovery. I also donated a 25 cent MPC (Ser. 481) to the ANA museum which I have received a confirmation and thanks from Chris. So you might include that note to your listing of "donations" from "Gramsters." PK6 Dear PK, Thanks, the ANA want list below has been updated. Chris probably had sent me an update and I goofed it up, but in any event, it is posted now and appreciated (the note and the notice)! Editor Dear Editor, Have you had the healing hands on you, so that a trip to Florida may help you recuperate? David Dear David, Traditionally, this is my departure day for FUN. It does not look good for me. I think that I am going to miss all of those treasures on the floor! Editor =========================================== CALENDAR OF EVENTS =========================================== 2002 FUN Florida United Numismatists, Orlando, 9 - 12Jan 2003 Confirmed table holders and attendees [Leo May (table), David Seelye (table), Larry Smulczenski (table w/Schwan), Harold Kroll, Marcus Turner, Howard Daniel, David Amey, Rod and Wes Hardy, Al Glaser, Bill Yanchick, Ian Marshall [with table], Mike Cummings [with table and MPC exhibit] John and Nancy Wilson, Shafer boys, Ray Czahor, others please confirm. CPMX 9: 20 - 23 February, Chicago, IL MPC Fest IV: 28 Feb - 2 March, Port Clinton, OH Fest Registrants: Doug Bell, Joe Boling†, Guido Crapanzano†, Dick Freyser, Philip M. Goldstein$$, Gary Hicks, Harold Kroll, Jack Lippincot, Kevin Maloy, Leo May$$, Fred Schwan, David Seelye, Nick Shrier, Larry Smulczenski$$, Warner Talso$$$, Marcus Turner$$, Tom Warburton, Mark Watson, Bill Yanchick, Tom Koch, Nancy and John Wilson†, Bill McNease, Cuneyd Tolek†, Wendel Wolka†, Al Glaser, Ian Marshal, John Cheney†. Registration fee: $148 double occupancy $198 single occupancy (including meals and motel). Payments may be sent to BNRPress, 132 E. Second St., Port Clinton, OH 43452 or via PayPal to fredschwan@yahoo.com. Suggested airports in order of desirability: Toledo, Cleveland, Detroit (attempts will be made to provide ground transportation to/from these airports) $$ = Paid Running total: 28, †=new fester (running total 6 new Festers). ANA National Money Show, March 21-23, 2003, Charlotte (NC) Convention Center, Contact ANA Convention Department at convention@money.org or JoeBoling@aol.com for forms to exhibit. Hours are 10-6:30 Friday & Saturday & 10-2 Sunday. Hotels are The Westin Charlotte (704-375-2623) and the nearby Hampton Inn Charlotte Uptown (704-373-0917). Howard Daniel will be manning a joint NI/NBS/IBNS club table where Gramsters can meet each other. He is also conducting a joint NI/IBNS meeting on Saturday and invites all Gramsters to the meeting's show and tell session and to meet other collectors with similar interests. Masstricht April 4-6, Valkenburg, The Netherlands, contact Jos Eijsermans, Box 3240, NL 5930 Tegelen Netherlands Memphis International Paper Money Show: 13-15 June, Cook Convention Center, 255 N. Main St., Memphis TN 38103-1623 Military Numismatics Summer Seminar Session I dates are Saturday, June 28, to Friday, July 4; session II, Saturday, July 5 to Friday, July 11, 2003 Link for more and general information: http://www.money.org/sumsem2003.html Link to photos from Seminar II http://www.money.org/summer2002images5.html PCDA National and World Paper Money Convention. November 19-23, 2003. St. Louis Hilton Airport Hotel, 10330 Natural Bridge Road, St. Louis, MO 63134. ======================================== 2003 scholarship fund Donations of cash and numismatic material will be gladly accepted. Generally the numismatic material is auctioned at MPCFest, but might be sold via ebay or other places. Your scholarship donations help the hobby by sending qualified individuals to the ANA summer seminar military money class. Except for unavoidable charges like ebay fees, 100% of your donation goes to scholarships. 2003 Scholarship Donors Ed Hoffman RA Medina Dick Freyser Larry Smulczenski David Seelye Howard Daniel Steve Feller Warner Talso Pam West Mr. 691 Leo May John & Nancy Wilson Max Spiegel Gail Baker Chris Connell Bill Haines Contact me at: "Marcus Turner" maturner@indy.rr.com Checks should be made out to the "Military Numismatists Scholarship." or Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, Indiana 46123 USA =========================================== MPC ANA Museum Project =========================================== ANA collection of MPC: Thanks to donations from Ed Beaman, Michael Cummings, David Pitchford, Marcus Turner, and Mr. 691 the ANA MPC collection is current as follows: Series 100 - [50 sen], [1Y, 5Y, 10Y, 20Y all A underprint] Series 461 - 5 cents Series 471 - None Series 472 - [5 cents], [$10] Series 481 - 5 cents, [10, 25 cents] 50 cents, $1, $10 Series 521 - 5, 10, 25, 50 cents, [$10] Series 541 - 5, 10, 25 cents Series 591 - [$1] Series 611 - [5, 10, 25 cents] Series 641 - 5, 10, 25, 50 cents, $1, $5, $10 Series 651 - [$1] Series 661 - [10, 50c], [$5], [$1, $5] $10 Series 681 - 5, 10, 25, 50 cents, $1, [$5], [$20] Series 691 - [$1, $5, $10, $20] Series 692 - 5, 10, 25, 50 cents, $1 Series 701 - [$1, $5, $10, $20] [50c etc.] = notes donated by Gramsters --Chris Connell ANA Museum Collection Manager 818 Cascade Ave. Colorado Springs, CO 80903 collections@money.org =========================================== RESEARCH =========================================== Papermoneyworld maintains an innovative interactive data base of all military payment certificates. 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Smythe(800) 622-1880 (212) 908-4047 www.smytheonline.com Mel Steinberg & Son(415) 453-9750 (415) 457-4432 melsteinberg@mindspring.com Military Trader(800) 334-7165 Scott Winslow Associates (603)472-7040 (603) 472-8773 scott@scottwinslow.com George Warner(307) 672-3700 Pam West [44] 0208 641 3224[44] 0208 641 3224 pamwestbritnotes@compuserve.com ======================================= POST / BASE EXCHANGE(PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! Your classified advertisement for items for sale, purchase or trade will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more interesting. In all cases confirm your order via email first. WANTED SECTION: Collectors may submit lists of items wanted for their collections for listing here. Dealers and collectors who have these items, are then encouraged to list them for sale in the above section as a reply. Wanted listings will run for a period of 1 month. WANTED Rendezvous with Destiny MFC Series 022 souvenir notes. Paying up to five times face value. Put your for sale notice in the Gram. I would like to list my Christmas want list. I'm looking for the following notes: Series 100 Supplemental A yen - the 100 yen note. Series 100 Supplemental B yen - the 1,000 yen note. Series 521 .25 cent, 3rd printing. Series 521 .50 cent, 2nd printing. Series 521 $5.00, 2nd printing. Thank you, I hope someone has these notes for sale. Gary Wanted : Japan Occupation Malaya 10 cent 2 letters , Burma 1 & 5 cent 2 letters ! High grade preferred ! Looking to buy 1 each all EVEN and all ODD serial numbers on a Series 681 $1note, Uncirculated or better. Also, I personally consider any zero in the serial number to be an even digit. =========================================== MPC CATALOG CORRECTIONS & ENHANCEMENTS Page 18, Bottom - Users of Military Payment Certificates Check marks were omitted from production copies of books. Please check off the following: Australia: 641, 661, 681, 692 Canada:461 through and including 591 Korea: 641, 661, 681, 692 New Zealand:641, 661, 681, 692 Thailand: 641, 661, 681, 692 United States: All (date listed: 02 APRIL 2002) Page 201, Bottom Right - Very last sentence on this page Two serial numbers listed for the second printing of Series 472 .50 cent notes. The first serial number listed is obviously in error as a nine digit number: C040351392C Correct Serial Number is: C04035139C D Freyser (date listed 10 April 2002) Page 207, #833/4 - Series 481 .25 4th Printing (table listing serial number breakdowns) line 5 Start Number is incorrect. It appears as: (start) D14784001D(end) D14784000D Correct start number should be: D09408001D PK6 (date listed: 03 APRIL 2002) Page 214, #855/r2 - Series 541 $1 Replacements, Ending serial number is incorrect Correct number is F1112000 (date listed: 02 APRIL 2002) Page 220, #884/2r - Series 641 .50 Replacements On page 284, it is broken down into 2 printings. That's correct, BUT, on page 220 he lists only (1) printing reported. It should "list" both first and second printings. Guy Araby (date listed 04 APRIL 2002) Page 287, Series 661 Series Summary, 25 cent note: the "list" shows "#CU as 10(7) . It should read, 8(7). As only 8 are known in CU. Just recount P.289. Guy Araby (date listed 08 APRIL 2002) Page 398, Series #541 $10 on "UNC." price is $2500, on P.214 the UNC. price is $3500. Also the rest of the prices don't match all the way to "VG" on this issue. They should be the same price. 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